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    Re: Suffering

    Wha...?!?

    I was working on the assumption you knew what you were talking about. Was I mistaken? Surely you don't need me to tell you that the very word means suffering? Surely you don't need me to...
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    Fun and exiting because you get to watch all the...

    Fun and exiting because you get to watch all the unsaved suffer and perish? What's fun about that? Are you really so self-absorbed that you think the end of the world will be fun just because you're...
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    They were human just as we are. It's okay to...

    They were human just as we are. It's okay to reject their mythology but I think their views, since their experience being human was so similar to ours, shouldn't be dismissed so quickly.


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    Of course you do -- we all do! That's why people...

    Of course you do -- we all do! That's why people came up with gods and devils and 'higher' moral principles. The ancients made two powerful observations: 1) sometimes people who exhibited outstanding...
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    It seems that there are absolutes which have been...

    It seems that there are absolutes which have been revered universally by all human societies throughout time:

    One is that you should never take the life of another human being without good cause....
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    But it can be and is determined by society. We...

    But it can be and is determined by society. We have a say in our society's values by exercising our right to vote.



    I think your comparison between pedophilia and homosexuality is uninformed....
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    I think the leap from 'liberal Christian' to...

    I think the leap from 'liberal Christian' to child molester is a bit of a stretch.

    But I'll play along. A behavior of anyone which forces another person to do a thing -- especially a thing with...
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    Re: Re: Re: 'Christian' Liberalism

    I'll buy that, but I think the difference lies in the quality of information. Smokers have been presented for years with reams of data and empirical evidence that there are dire side effects to their...
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    Re: 'Christian' Liberalism

    This is easy. You just have to establish the perfection of your interpretation of scripture. You could cast Mt. Rainier into the Pacific to prove your superiority and these people would have to...
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    I find nothing offensive about Trinitarian...

    I find nothing offensive about Trinitarian thought, I just think people go way out of their way to support it because deep down it's a bit embarrassing. In no other facet of Christian theology is the...
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    Simultaneous? Simultaneous over four and a half billion years? Please tell me where you get these ideas of yours.



    Yes, but you have to know what probabilities to look for. For example, let's...
  12. I'm not sure why you'd say this unless you are...

    I'm not sure why you'd say this unless you are under the impression that because biology is a different scientific discipline than cosmology that "evolutionists" wouldn't have heard of it. This is...
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    Ah. This is good to know. Thanks, Thomas.

    Ah. This is good to know. Thanks, Thomas.
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    And check with your physician. Hearing voices is...

    And check with your physician. Hearing voices is an indicator for some mental illnesses which can lead to dangerous behaviors if left untreated.
  15. Is that an appeal to special revelation I hear?...

    Is that an appeal to special revelation I hear? Ignore the brain God gave you and turn your back on science: God will reveal all to his special few.

    There may be some who fall to their knees when...
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    Well, I didn't want to say it but that only...

    Well, I didn't want to say it but that only leaves intentionally deceptive.


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    I don't have any evidence on me if that's what you're asking, but it's very well documented in any...
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    It seems to me what you are describing in your...

    It seems to me what you are describing in your most recent post is tolerance.
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    Quite the contrary: I've asked a couple of time...

    Quite the contrary: I've asked a couple of time what you are actually saying by advocating judgment and admonishing tolerance.



    So now you're saying you are in favor of tolerance? Did you...
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    So why not act like you have faith in God?...

    So why not act like you have faith in God? Instead, you put faith in yourselves and your interpretation of that book. If you truly had faith it seems you wouldn't need to point out your judgment of...
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    What are you actually saying here? I mean, I'm...

    What are you actually saying here?

    I mean, I'm often told that a basic Christian tenet is humility. What you seem to be saying with this post though is that although all humans are fallible and...
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    So, Christking, why weren't there any Jews until...

    So, Christking, why weren't there any Jews until after Christ had come?
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    So, Christking, why weren't there any Christians...

    So, Christking, why weren't there any Christians until after Christ had come?
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    "Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that...

    "Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding."...
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    "I form the light, and create darkness: I make...

    "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." --Isaiah 45:7
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    What's the code word here? I mean when do you...

    What's the code word here? I mean when do you decide to start reading other meanings into the text after the fact? When Yahweh cursed Adam to troublesome farming (Genesis 3:17-18) that was...
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