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    Re: Remembering the gospel

    Charles,

    I have seen this too but I am starting to realise how deep it goes.

    When Paul criticised Peter for separating himself from the Galatians he didn't say "Peter, you're being a racist,...
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    Remembering the gospel

    After a long absence I'm back! :) Get your knives sharpened ready! (Ok, just kidding! :D)

    I have a strong passion for a recovery of a right use of the gospel in the sanctification of believers....
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    Re: Sanctification

    Hi Joe,

    Don't forget that the dictionaries give more than one meaning for hagiazo because it can have different meanings in different contexts. In some instances it clearly implies a one-off, past...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Milt, this is an example of how dialogue with you is impossible when you jump to conclusions like that. You quote the following from David's email (which you published without permission):

    You...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Milt,

    Well at least we have some scripture amidst all the waffle.

    No, actually you are the one making the assertion. You interpret the text. You back up your assertion. You said that God has...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    I agree with this last sentence but I'm still not sure you understand why calvin could say things that appear contradictory. But like you say there's probably little point in futher discussion of...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    I'm sorry Joe but I think you are completely missing what I am saying.

    Let me try to make it clearer.

    Ellis begins by saying that the sufficiency/efficiency formula:

    Well, first off I think...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    But who says it can? Nobody has asserted that in this thread so far that I can see. Of course it depends upon what you mean by 'salvation' and 'extended' but everything else you say hangs off the...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Milt,


    This makes no sense whatsoever. It is both incomplete and ambiguous:

    1. What is "universal calling" and how it is any different to "free offer of the gospel"?

    2. Is common grace...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Hey folks, so many groundless assertions, hidden assumptions and pointless emotional rhetoric and so little time to expose it all! Iím not going to be able to keep up with you all. The whole style of...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Dreadful article Joe! Talk about erecting a straw man and then knocking it down with fallacious arguments! The whole thing is one huge red herring. The phrase "sufficient for all, efficient for the...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    No idea what you're talking about since it isn't what I said.

    Martin
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Sure I can agree with that but the real point of disagreement is over God's intentions not the word 'offer'. But I think I lack the will to get into that. :(

    Huh? So you're agreeing with Calvin...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    sorry hit post by mistake - still working on this
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Ah, I thought you were dealing with some confusion in what had been posted. Ok, although I've never met anyone like that myself and I don't claim that myself.

    You did, so why repeat it? (I'm not...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Milt,

    Not a lot of time. I'll just try to deal with the main points I think you make. The rest doesn't really add anything to them anyway. (you do like to write long posts don't you!)
    ...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Hi Joe, perhaps this will help a little further.

    Look again at the extract from the treatise on the eternal predestination of God.

    What he is saying in effect is that when he says that Christ...
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    Re: Reprobates?

    I see no basis for arguing that God has only earthly death in view in verse 11 - to say nothing of the implied absurdity of your position that God takes no pleasure in the earthly death of a...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Because the difference is more than just whether two words mean the same thing but about the thoughts that you and JC are trying to convey. The quote you provide is saying something entirely...
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    Re: Reprobates?

    Huh? Where do you get that from the quote of mine you gave? Substitute 'accomplished' for 'achieved' and you can see I said no such thing.

    Nevertheless, we both know that there is a difference...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Calvin speaks of 'extending' you say 'offering'. How do you know you are correct to assume you are speaking of the same thing?



    You appear by this statement to be thinking that Calvin is...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Why do you mention John 1:29 first as though that is primarily what you are responding to? Has this post been copied from elsewhere?

    You are correct that this is an important thing to do although...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Well Bob, I shall overlook and forgive you for the clear implication that you are calling me dishonest. Neither shall I question your honesty in return but I shall simply refer you back to my...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Ah, but you did say it though didn't you. I don't know what you intended to accomplish by the use of that technique but in similar vein then I will say nothing about your sloppy exegesis, resulting...
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    Re: John Calvin on 1 John 2:2

    Hi Joe,

    Can you provide an example where you think Amyraut was not in-line with Calvin?

    Martin
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