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  1. Thread: What Now?

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    Re: What Now?

    Mary,


    There are many who face the same problems, concerns and issues. I think it difficult to be a saved person living today because at this time it appears as if there are very few saved...
  2. Re: Gods wrath is never carried out against his elect

    Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for His great love with which He loved us

    Obviously, being a “child of wrath” does not mean God can’t love one. The bible is clear that some “children...
  3. Gods wrath is never carried out against his elect

    Eph 2:3 among whom we also had our way of life in times past, in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the thoughts, and were by nature the children of wrath, even as...
  4. Re: Has God Predestined Any Humans to Salvation Who Don't Hear the Gospel in this Lif

    [QUOTE=Robert R. Higby;65745]Jim: It is possible that in God’s ability to control all events that happen, all that die in infancy (of course we would have to define what that word means) are his...
  5. Re: Has God Predestined Any Humans to Salvation Who Don't Hear the Gospel in this Lif

    A couple of quick points:
    If it is true that one must “hear” as part of the salvific process, then God will see to it that all his elect will hear in some way or in some manner.
    It is possible...
  6. Re: The just shall live by faith - from Christ's faith[fulness] to ours

    Also note the following we are not saved by faith but by grace.

    Eph 2:8 For by grace you are saved, through faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God;litv
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    What Does God Say About What A Church Is?

    1Ti 3:15 but if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how men ought to behave themselves in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.




    It...
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    Re: Common Grace: A Revered Myth of Man

    #1
    I am not sure what you mean by natural law so I am not sure how to answer the question.
    I look at it more of God restraining some people from committing certain sins for example to protect...
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    Re: Common Grace: A Revered Myth of Man

    Leithert if I am not mistaken is Federal Vision which is considered heresy.
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    Re: Common Grace: A Revered Myth of Man

    The problem is how one defines grace, if you are suggesting that we define grace as to “describe God's acts of providence and creation” then that definition would not fit with Isaiah 26:10
    Is this...
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    Re: Common Grace: A Revered Myth of Man

    Craig,
    Since this verse has few of possible translations, favor, mercy or grace, the wrong translation is grace. So that leaves us with favor or mercy.
    Here is the definition of favor:
    ...
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    Re: Common Grace: A Revered Myth of Man

    It sounds like we are in agreement:

    The only reason God's wrath is not carried out against someone is that they are elect, even if they would have been deserving of such, if it were not for that...
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    Re: Common Grace: A Revered Myth of Man

    D. Gill
    You wrote
    There is nothing that WILL BE that WON'T BE. EVERYTHING THAT WILL bE - WILL BE. IF there is WRATH intended for an individual - it is ETERNAL. If there is GRACE intended for an...
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    Re: Common Grace: A Revered Myth of Man

    Craig,
    You wrote:

    Therefore, according to your post, the ELECT had made God angry at sometime in the past?
    Me
    Yes
    I think that God is angry with us when we sin, that does not mean...
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    Poll: Re: What must I do to be saved?

    Good question. The problem is there is nothing you can do to get yourself saved.

    Note the verse says to "be saved" not get saved. The second half of the verse is stating a fact not telling someone...
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    Re: Common Grace: A Revered Myth of Man

    Because most people don't believe in wrath at all, while most people either believe in common grace or that they deserve it, if not from God then from the government.

    There is another problem:...
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    Re: Common Grace: A Revered Myth of Man

    W.B.

    I think you are wise not to use the term common grace. I would however disagree with the following quote of yours
    “Opponents of "common grace" often make the claim that God only...
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    Common Grace: A Revered Myth of Man

    Common grace does not exist it is a figment of mans imagination
    The proof: The entire bible.
    No where does the bible talk about grace being common.
    No where do the words common and grace...
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    Re: Mat:13:19 let the truth be told

    You are correct it is not telling us to do anything.

    Here is the verse again:
    Mat 13:19 When anyone hears the Word of the kingdom and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and...
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    Re: Mat:13:19 let the truth be told

    Stacy,

    Thanks for the reply.

    What a blessing how the Truth all fits together.
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    Re: What Is Real Rejection Of The Truth

    Craig

    You wrote:
    “there is a certain sufficiency in the atonement to cover the sins of all people”

    Me
    If it is a certain sufficiency to cover the sins of all people, then why is...
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    Re: What Is Real Rejection Of The Truth

    Craig,
    Take a look at these verses:
    Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
    Joh...
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    Re: What Is Real Rejection Of The Truth

    Craig

    Thanks for the reply

    Like I said “ if I am not mistaken” so it is possible I misunderstood what you had said earlier.

    So that there is no misunderstanding did the...
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    Re: What Is Real Rejection Of The Truth

    WB & CK

    If I am not mistaken you both have stated that you don’t believe in the Jesus of the bible the one that died to pay for the sins of only some people (the elect).

    I just started a...
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    Mat:13:19 let the truth be told

    Mat 13:19 When anyone hears the Word of the kingdom and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and catches away that which was sown in his heart. This is the seed sown by the wayside....
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