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    Talking Porn

    I heard someone mention something about this in another thread. I am curious to see what your thoughts are, on porn and masturbation.
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    Do you mean together or as separate issues? There's a lot that could be discussed such as the exploitation of women vs. free expression, exposure to children, disease prevention, intimacy in relationships, etc. etc. Are you thinking of something specific?

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    I would say all Christians say porn is wrong. Also I would say that most would say that masturbation is wrong but not all.

    Now I have not read this site fully but it looks like it gives an overview of these delicate subject of masturbation. Showing different viewpoints of it from different kinds of people.

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/masturba.htm#conser

    As for me i think porn is wrong. As far as masturbation I think that the act itself is not wrong but the fantasy part of it is.

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    Pornography is wrong. It causes lustful thoughts, is a form of adultery and it keeps people in bondage. It is sin and a definite stumblingblock.

    Masturbation is a sin. If you're not married, it is fornication with yourself (I know, kinda hard to understand). If you are married, it is a sin unless it's a part of a "session", so to speak, with your spouse, as the marriage bed is undefiled.

    Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
    Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.
    The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
    Psalm 14:1

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    Pornography is wrong. It causes lustful thoughts, is a form of adultery and it keeps people in bondage. It is sin and a definite stumblingblock.
    If pornography is wrong simply because is causes lustful thoughts, then so are tasty foods, fancy cars, lots of money, attractive people, political power, or anything else you just MIGHT have a strong desire for. Like saying drugs are bad because they cause people to abuse them. Most likely, it's wrong for other reasons like portraying women in subjective roles and playthings to be abused.

    Masturbation is a sin. If you're not married, it is fornication with yourself (I know, kinda hard to understand). If you are married, it is a sin unless it's a part of a "session", so to speak, with your spouse, as the marriage bed is undefiled.
    Where do you get this stuff???

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    If pornography is wrong simply because is causes lustful thoughts, then so are tasty foods, fancy cars, lots of money, attractive people, political power, or anything else you just MIGHT have a strong desire for. Like saying drugs are bad because they cause people to abuse them. Most likely, it's wrong for other reasons like portraying women in subjective roles and playthings to be abused.
    Hello! Drugs ARE bad, but that's beside the point.

    Lust for food = gluttony:sin. Lust for money = greed:sin. Lust for attractive people = well, lust. :sin. Lust for political power = covetousness/greed/envy: sin.

    It is also wrong for portraying women in subjective roles and playthings to be abused, also. Thanks for helping me with that point!

    Where do you get this stuff???
    From the bible.

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    JustGina,

    "Masturbation is a sin. If you're not married, it is fornication with yourself (I know, kinda hard to understand). If you are married, it is a sin unless it's a part of a "session", so to speak, with your spouse, as the marriage bed is undefiled."

    I do not think that act itslef is wrong just the fantasy life that one probably entertains while doing it. Is there a verse that you know of that would say that the actual act is sinful? the Fantasy life is what Matt 5:28 dealt with and the other one. Well I just thought that one was funny.

    "Matt 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for hee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell."

    i know what you were trying to say with it but I ...well let's just leave it like that.

    questian:

    you said.

    "If pornography is wrong simply because is causes lustful thoughts, then so are tasty foods, fancy cars, lots of money, attractive people, political power, or anything else you just MIGHT have a strong desire for. Like saying drugs are bad because they cause people to abuse them. Most likely, it's wrong for other reasons like portraying women in subjective roles and playthings to be abused."

    I think that you are right and wrong. Yes porn is wrong for more that just that it incites lustful thought from the viewer. It is also wrong becasue the women are victimized. heck really everyone is with porn. The problem also with porn though compared to tasty foods and attractive people is that both of those things are natural. What I mean is that it is not bad in itself to eat tasty foods but it is wrong to view porn. Porn is not a natural expression of sexuality. Actually let me take that back it is very natural due ot our sin nature. However it is not natural for the way God made us to be. now eating tasty foods is natural for us to do now (with our sin nature) and befoer without it. God likes us to create things. He made us to procreate and to be imaginative. Now I know you do not believe in a sin nature but this is how I as a Christian can show that Porn is bad by itself even if it did not victimize women.

    By the way it also does hurt all parties involved. See everything that God does not want us to do really ends up vbeing bad for us.

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    I absolutely believe in sin nature. What did I say that made you think I don't?

    I believe in TULIP.

    I believe in modesty for women.

    I believe women should be in subjection to their husbands.

    I believe we should train up our children and part of that includes education at home.

    I believe in TV-free homes, however ours isn't TV-free because my husband doesn't believe as I do.

    I don't believe in birth control.

    I believe hair is given to women as a covering and that we shouldn't cut it. (Reformed Baptist, not Pentecostal or Apostolic)

    I am pro-life and pro-death penalty.

    Nice to meet you.

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    justGina:

    huh? I do not understand what you mean.

    Okay now your post changed. I will look at it and post below. Okay after reading it I still say huh? Is that directed to me or someone else?

    It is nice to meet you too justGina.

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    It was directed to you. I was telling you I do believe in sin nature and the total depravity of man.

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    Hi Justgina. Well, there's about 8 or 9 thread possibilities....
    I'll just ask what TULIP is. Also, how can you be prolife and prodeath at the same time? Isn't all life valuable?
    Welcome to the boards!

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    universe, you can read about TULIP, aka the doctrines of grace or the 5 points of calvinism here: http://www.5solas.org/media.php?id=33
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    Hi, universe.

    Here is why I am pro-capital punishment:
    Gen 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
    I am pro-life because I do believe every life is valuable. I don't believe in letting the guilty live and the innocent die (I mean innocent as in man's eyes, not God's).

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    Gina, check out this link:

    When should a Christian use violence?

    I go into detail why we should not use violence. Now do I believe there should be a death penalty? That is the decision of the state. That is not for us as Christians to decide. The sword has been placed in the hands of the magistrates for this very reason. Do they have a right to use this sword? I believe so. But as a Christian, we are called to pray for our enemies, and have mercy on those who would otherwise harm us. The state doesn't have this higher calling.... Maybe we should start another thread on the death penalty......
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    No violence involved! A simple needlestick while the "patient" is comfy on a table...

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    Ro 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, [they masturbate and do porn?]

    Ro 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit, [such as porn and masturbation].

    I can't believe Christians are even discussing whether these are sinful or not! *LOL*

    hello, go by your spirit and you will know straight away.

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    Thanks for the link, kermie, I'm off to read about it.

    As for sticking a needle in a convicts arm: I view an action that leads to the deliberate death of someone to be violent. That's just me.

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    Here here, Andrew!

    universe, compared to the brutality with which the vast majority of these capital murderers visit death upon their victims, a needlestick/lethal injection is comparable to a featherstroke, for Pete's sake. I personally think they deserve slower, more painful deaths. I know I'll get slammed for that one, but I'm nothing if not honest.

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    Originally posted by Andrew
    I can't believe Christians are even discussing whether these are sinful or not! *LOL*
    Many years ago, I heard a pastor preach a sermon on personal purity, and holy living.

    He made a few comments, that really made A LOT of sense.

    A Christian doesn't have to ask anyone if brushing their teeth is permissable...

    A Christian doesn't have to ask anyone if going for a swim is permissable...

    A Christian doesn't have to ask anyone if painting a picture is permissable...

    Why doesn't a Christian have to ask if these things are permissable? Because a true child of God, born of the Spirit, will never be convicted over these things, that they are sinful, and he shouldn't be involved in them.

    The pastor went on to say, after much preaching on immorality and compromise and excuses

    "If you have to ask, it's probably sinful, so stay away from it".

    lol... I loved that sermon. I suppose it really doesn't apply across the boards, but in a general sense, it sure does.

    Goodnight all, I'm going to brush my teeth...
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    I believe that pornography is wrong, but most things in this world seem to have some sin associated with it....

    its hard to live a good Christian life...

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