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    Christian Zionism Another Gospel

    Perhaps many of you may be aware of John Hagee. If not, I feel just a little scratching under the veneer will reveal a very dangerous heretic. Not only does he blaspheme the Messianic Gospel of Jesus Christ, but is in league with Zionism. As occult as Zionism is, Hagee and his political buddy Joseph Lieberman are in league together to extort money from not only professed Christians, but all who nievely fall into the trance of Zionist dreams.

    Please read the below attachment by Peter Cohen. Don't be fooled by the name. Cohen is not a Zionist, nor a Christian Zionist.

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    For the sake of truth only,

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    Re: Christian Zionism Another Gospel

    It certainly is another gospel indeed!

    Hagee has already been teaching anti-gospel heresy (Wesleyan Arminianism) throughout the years of his ministry. He is also a long-standing dispensationalist. Is there any doubt that God is sending him this new strong delusion, to make him believe another lie, because he already loved not the truth but took pleasure in a profitable mega-media antichrist ministry?

    Every time I get one of these ads asking to give money to help 'save' Israel or Palestine I want to vomit. Israel has enough resources to defend herself and we need to force the right political decisions on its people (to vote out these wacky liberal socialists they seem to increasingly love) by stopping our endless intervention in their affairs and making them pay for their own defense. Palestine, let them figure out how to solve their own problems--trade with them and that's it.
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    Re: Christian Zionism Another Gospel

    Nowadays, I find the subject of bible prophecy very interesting because of the realisation that there is another view of bible prophecy that is very exciting. Networks like this and other resources have helped greatly to that end.

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    Re: Christian Zionism Another Gospel

    Everything that denies God's grace and sovereign predestination of ALL things is a different gospel. Chances of you finding it in a "church" or on TV are about nil, so this of no surprise or of no consequence.
    Isaiah 45:7, (KJV), I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

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    I used to get a giggle out of his showmanship; he always had great graphics and he has perfected the timing of his emphatical finger snaps into the microphone so the decieved think he is a voice of authority. I always expected him to trip over his props and roll right off the stage....I think he's evolving into a jelly donut.

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    Re: Christian Zionism Another Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by rlhuckle View Post
    ....I think he's evolving into a jelly donut.
    Huh, go figure, I thought he was a jelly doughnut.
    Isaiah 45:7, (KJV), I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

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    Thanks Nick, for the info. John Hagee really does believe that there are two gospels. One for the Jews and one for the Gentiles.
    Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

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    Re: Christian Zionism Another Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlyfavored View Post
    Huh, go figure, I thought he was a jelly doughnut.
    I am a jelly donut expert and he is no jelly donut. Not even close.
    Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvinator View Post
    Thanks Nick, for the info. John Hagee really does believe that there are two gospels. One for the Jews and one for the Gentiles.


    Although Hagee sees two Gospels (Jew/Gentile), neither of those Gospels can save anyone.

    Hagee is just another evangelical tool (pawn) of the (politico/religio) machine power elite in this country. A very effective tool at that!

    Nicholas
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    Re: Christian Zionism Another Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint Nicholas
    Although Hagee sees two Gospels (Jew/Gentile), neither of those Gospels can save anyone.

    Hagee is just another evangelical tool (pawn) of the (politico/religio) machine power elite in this country. A very effective tool at that!

    Nicholas
    Agreed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvinator
    I am a jelly donut expert and he is no jelly donut. Not even close.

    He is more like sour grapes!
    Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

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    Re: Christian Zionism Another Gospel

    We have been learning in our series on post-Reformation apostasy (Sunday night online conferences) that 'christian zionism' was a prophetic theory originally advanced by Jesuit priests in the RCC (Ribera and later perfected by Lacunza). All of it is an attempt to undo the changes in THINKING (NOT institutionalism) rejecting the gospel of the RCC that occured in the Reformation era. RCC proponents will introduce ANYTHING that is perceived to destroy an understanding of the pure gospel of grace extended by a sovereign God in Christ apart from ANY contribution whatsoever on the part of man!
    I got four things to live by: don't say nothin' that will hurt anybody; don't give advice--no one will take it anyway; don't complain; don't explain. Walter Scott

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    Re: Christian Zionism Another Gospel

    Hagee believes that Jews will get into heaven based on their adherence to the law--which is probably the most heretical of his teachings in regards to the whole issue. Zionism is not limited to Lieberman though. It's certainly found in the Bush camp as well as the McCain camp.
    For whatever strength of arm he may have who swims in the open sea, yet in time he is carried away and sunk, mastered by the greatness of its waves. Need then there is that we be in the ship, that is, that we be carried in the wood, that we may be able to cross this sea. Now this Wood in which our weakness is carried is the Cross of the Lord, by which we are signed, and delivered from the dangerous tempests of this world.--St. Augustine

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    Re: Christian Zionism Another Gospel

    Quote Originally Posted by wildboar View Post
    Hagee believes that Jews will get into heaven based on their adherence to the law--which is probably the most heretical of his teachings in regards to the whole issue. Zionism is not limited to Lieberman though. It's certainly found in the Bush camp as well as the McCain camp.
    You are correct Charles... It is not limited to Lieberman only. The Zionists have strongly influenced, and to some degrees controlled American politics and Evangelical circles for the past 60 years. With the decay of reformed eschatology (Amillenialism) coupled with the stong advances and veneration of dispensational eschatology (Left Behind ) within current (professed only) Christianity, Christ's cursing of the fig tree has been incorrectly and blatently turned to Christ's blessing of the fig tree.


    Nicholas
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