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    Abraham Juliot
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    They falsely say that they teach limited atonement

    There is a trend in our day by some who are teaching hypothetical universalism and attempting to affirm that this is the doctrine of limited atonement.

    You can briefly observe this here:

    John Piper: Did The Death Of Jesus Christ Accomplish Anything For The Non-Elect
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shuPKIkl9e4

    KEVIN WILLIAMS - Confusion Atonement
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pL3h8XtoEI

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    Re: They falsely say that they teach limited atonement

    Piper agues for common grace and then destroys that argument and then sides for the argument that he just destroyed.
    Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

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    Re: They falsely say that they teach limited atonement

    very true... It seems like he is coming close to grasping the implications of his theology... but maybe not?

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    Re: They falsely say that they teach limited atonement

    I watched the piper video again and he said that the non-elect get another chance to be saved, because God did not kill them right after they sinned. What a very Arminian thing to say. This is just another example that not all people that say that they believe in the Sovereignty of God, predestination, election and the totally depravity of man actually do.

    The one thing that he got right. He said he did not know how to answer the question.
    Rom 8:18-21, (NASB), For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

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