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Questions About the Trinity

1 John 5:7
Don Fortner January, 7 2014 Video & Audio
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7, For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

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Let's go back tonight to 1 John
5, verse 7. 1 John 5, verse 7. I brought a message to you back
in September from this text, and I have been continually going
back and studying it these past five months, and it just gets
bigger. and more blessed every time I
look at it. My subject tonight is questions
about the Trinity. I want to raise questions about
the Trinity and answer them for you clearly from the word of
God. And we recognize that in this
day there is much confusion about everything with regard to the
gospel of our God. particularly with regard to the
person and work of our Lord Jesus Christ. And people in the name
of charity and brotherly love and unity want to reach out and
embrace everybody. We don't want to be severe. We
don't want to dare imply that some folks don't know God. If
they worship a gourd, that's all right. But the fact is, if
you worship a gourd, you don't know God. And you may as well
worship a gourd as worship what most folks call God. The Mormons
deny that Jesus Christ is God. The proselytes deny that Jesus
Christ is God. Most everyone, though they loudly
declare that Christ is God, by denying the efficacy of his grace,
the efficacy of his righteousness, the efficacy of his blood, the
efficacy of his intercession, declare that he's not God. Back
when Athanasius first declared, as he did so clearly, the doctrine
of the Trinity, someone said to him, Athanasius, don't you
know that the whole world is against you? He said, then it
is I, Athanasius, against the world. And so it is in all generations
with all who would worship and preach the gospel of God's free
grace. If you expect to find some mediating
point, some moderating point, some balancing point, some unifying
point between yourself and this religious world, You will have
to flat out give up and deny the gospel of God's grace. Now
make up your mind. Make up your mind. You're not
going to hold to and worship the Lord God Almighty. as he's
revealed in this book, and get along with this religious world.
You may as well quit trying. I don't mean that you should
be mean and have nothing to do with people. Please understand
that. I don't mean you should go around
and stick your finger in folks' faces all the time and tell them
to go into hell. No, just preach the gospel to folks and let God
do with it what he will. But don't compromise the gospel
in any area. Now let's look at 1 John 5. Whosoever
believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. Now let me give
you the long and short of what that means. Anyone who trusts
Christ, believing that he, the Lord Jesus, has accomplished
all that the prophets in the law said he would accomplish,
he's born of God. And everyone that loveth him
that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. Brothers
love each other, not because they're lovable. Most of the
time we aren't. Most of the time we're not. That's just fact.
We get crabby and mean and out of sorts and say things we ought
not to and do things we ought not to. Oh, but I love everybody. No, you don't. No, you don't.
Anybody says I love everybody you can't love somebody you don't
know That's nonsense. I just that's words without meaning
But we who are born of God love all who are born of God because
they're in God Because they're one with Christ and believers
love the Savior loving the Savior. They love those who are in the
Savior, you know by this we know that we love the children of
God and When we love God, we keep his commandments. How do
I know that? Well, I don't know whether I
love Jonathan like I ought to or not. I don't. I know that. You know that. But I know that
I love him because I love God, keep his commandments. I believe
on his son. That's how I know I love him.
I don't know that I believe on his son because of the way I
love him. I know that I love him because I believe on the
son of God. For this is the love of God,
that we keep his commandments, and his commandments are not
grievous. For whatsoever is born of God
overcometh the world, and this is the victory that overcometh
the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the
world? but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God. And this is he that came by water
and blood, even Jesus Christ, not by water only, but by water
and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth
witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that
bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost,
and these three are one. There are three that bear record
in heaven, that bear record that Jesus is the Christ. The Father bears record that
he's the Christ by accepting his sacrifice. The Word, that
is Christ himself, the Son, bears record that he's the Christ by
virtue of his own exaltation and intercession. And the Holy
Ghost bears record that Jesus is the Christ Regent by regenerating
us and giving us faith in him testifying in our own hearts
that this one who is the Nazarene he is indeed the Christ of God
effectually teaching us to worship him and These three are one These
three persons are the one true and living God the Father the
Word and the Holy Ghost and These three are what? I've said this
to you many, many times, but it bears repetition. All modern translations, all
modern translations of scripture omit this verse of scripture. First John five, seven. They
either omit it or they put a little note in the margin somewhere.
It says we really should omit it. We just leave it in there
cause you want it in there. The fact is this passage of scripture
has throughout history, this one text, been the subject of
relentless attack by hell for this reason. While the doctrine
of the Trinity is taught throughout the Word of God, as we will see
this evening, this is the one, the singular, the only place
in all the Word of God where it is emphatically Clearly unmistakably
stated look at it There are three that bear record in heaven the
Father the Word and the Holy Ghost and these three are one
I Recognize the Bible never uses the word Trinity And there are
a lot of super-pious people who say, well, we just preach just
the Bible, and we just use scripture terms. And they use the heretics. They use the heretics. They use
scripture terms and pervert those terms. This part of the country,
we've got Campbellites all over the place, the Christian church,
Church of Christ. They're Campbellites. And they're
heretics. They're heretics from the get-go.
They teach work salvation from start to finish. They're utter
heretics. But we just use Bible terms, and they do, they do.
And then explain away the terms of the Bible. No, the word Trinity
is not used anywhere in this book. But the doctrine of the
Trinity is taught everywhere in this book. The word substitution
is not used anywhere in the book of God. You will not find it
anywhere in the word of God. But there's not a page of Scripture
where the doctrine of substitution is not taught. We reason and
understand things as they are revealed in the scriptures. What
does the word of God teach? That and that alone is the criteria
for our faith. Those things that we believe,
we believe not because they make sense to men, not because they're
logical and reasonable, not because they're things that can be proved,
not because they're easy to understand, or even that we're able to understand
them. We believe what God says, period. Now, I was just thinking, sitting
there a minute ago, how am I going to approach this thing of trinity?
The confessions, if I remember correctly, speak of God as a
God is the pure, eternal, incomprehensible, immutable spirit. Man, that sounds
impressive, doesn't it? But there's not one word in that
statement that I can explain. Eternal. Incomprehensible. Immutable. Infinite. Spirit. Now, how are
you going to explain any of that? David, those things beyond our...
We use the words all the time, but they're beyond our comprehension.
Men start to define eternal. I see fellas trying to explain
eternal and eternity. And I laugh when I pick it up
because I don't care how brilliant they are, they missed it. Eternal
is bigger than you. Infinite is bigger than me. Incomprehensible
is bigger than me. God is bigger than me. A God
you can explain, a God you can put in a box, a God you can carry
in your pocket is not much. We want, we need God as he is
revealed in the scripture. The Bible clearly teaches the
doctrine of the Trinity. Now, let me raise some questions. I've got 10 of them, but I'm
going to get done in 45 minutes whether I get them all 10 answered
or not. I'll give them to you later. Let's raise these 10 questions,
and I want you to see the answer in the book. Begin with me back
in Genesis chapter 1. Genesis chapter 1. Now I hope
you'll get your piece of paper and a pencil out or a pen and
take some notes. We're going to look at a lot
of scripture. Genesis chapter one, verse 26. Does the Bible
teach that God is one person? Does the word of God teach us,
now listen carefully, that God is one person? No, it doesn't. Nowhere. Look at Genesis 1, 26.
And God said, God said, let us, you see that? That's plural, that's not singular,
that's plural. The one God said, let us make
man in our image and after our likeness and let them have dominion
over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air and
over the cattle and over all the earth and over every creeping
thing that creepeth upon the earth. No, the Bible does not
say that God is one person. It does not teach that God is
one person. The scriptures teach that he
is one God in three distinct persons. Turn to Isaiah chapter
6. Let me show you again. Isaiah
chapter 6. We'll look at both the Old Testament
and the New. Here's Isaiah as he sees Christ
in his resurrection glory Having accomplished redemption for us
and he sees the Lord high and lifted up now We know that's
what Isaiah's visions about because in John chapter 12 our Savior
said this is what Isaiah saw he saw my glory He saw the glory
of the accomplished of the redeemed Redeemer who had accomplished
redemption for us Isaiah 6 And I also I heard the voice of the
Lord. I heard the voice of the Lord
saying, whom shall I send? The one Lord says, whom shall
I send and who will go for us? Whom shall I send and who will
go for us? Here is again a passage similar
to what we had in Genesis one. In verse 26, where God says,
let us make man in our image and after our likeness, the Lord
God speaks to the three persons of the Trinity, or the Father
speaks to the Son and the Holy Spirit, speaking in a covenant
relationship, speaking in the order of the covenant, and says,
whom shall I send and who will go for us? God the Father says,
who shall I send as my servant, as my messenger, as my redeemer,
as my angel of the covenant? Whom shall I send and who will
go for the triune Jehovah? And the Lord Jesus steps forward
and said, then said I, here am I, send me. That's the triune
God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Now look at John chapter 14,
John chapter 14. Throughout the scriptures, we
see that our salvation is the work of God the Father, God the
Son, and God the Holy Spirit. It is not the work of God represented
as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It is the work of God the Father.
God, the son and God, the Holy Spirit in Ephesians chapter one,
you have a marvelous, clear display. God, the father chose us. God,
the son redeemed us. God, the Holy Spirit calls and
preserves us here in John 14, our savior speaking for 60. He says, I will pray the father
and he shall give you another comforter that he may abide with
you forever. Even the spirit of truth whom
the world cannot receive. Because it seeth him not neither
knoweth him but you know him for he dwelleth with you and
shall be in you Here the Lord Jesus our Savior speaks and this
is I'm going to pray to the father Here is God the son our mediator
Standing upon the earth in human flesh and this is I'm going to
pray to the father in heaven and he will send you another
comforter another comforter just like me another comforter of
the same nature as I am another comforter of the very same kind
as I am and He the Holy Spirit will dwell in you and he will
teach you all that you need to know all things concerning me
The Bible teaches that there is one God in three persons. All right. Here's the second
question Turn to Matthew chapter 3 Matthew chapter 3 Does the Bible teach that God
is Father, Son, and Holy Ghost? Back when I was 18 years old,
I was in school at Springfield, Missouri, and some folks asked
me to come preach the church not far from campus. I had no
idea who they were. I found out they were Jesus-only
holiness folks. They only asked me one time.
But I went down there, I'd never tell a folks like this. I was
just 18 years old. People who believed in Jesus only. They
believed that Jesus is God the Father and Jesus is God the Son
and Jesus is God the Holy Spirit and no such thing as the Divine
Trinity. But does the Bible teach that God is Father, Son, and
Holy Spirit? Does it tell us that plainly?
Is that a clear, unmistakable declaration of Scripture? Indeed
it is. Matthew chapter 3 verse 13. Matthew chapter 3 verse 13. Then
cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John to be baptized
of him. Some folks think baptism is insignificant. It doesn't matter whether you're
baptized or not. The Lord Jesus walked 60 miles to be baptized
by John the Baptist. He walked 60 miles for that specific
purpose. But John forbade him, saying,
I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? And Jesus answering, said unto
him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfill
all righteousness. Now I have to pause. Hold your
place right there in Matthew 3. How on earth does somebody
getting in a pool of water and getting up out of it fulfill
righteousness? How on earth does somebody being
buried in the watery grave and coming up out of it fulfill righteousness? Now unless your brain has been
fired by religious nonsense You've got enough sense to understand
that getting down in the water Dirty and coming up washed from
the water. If you took a good bath while
you were there will make you righteous and It won't do it.
Can't do it. Well, how is it that the Lord
means thus it becometh us to fulfill all righteousness? He's
saying John I'm here entering upon my public ministry by which
I will accomplish the redemption of my people and bring in everlasting
righteousness. And this is how righteousness
shall be fulfilled. I must die. I must be buried
in the heart of the earth and I must rise again without sin. So baptize me. And that's what
baptism does. It is the symbolic fulfillment
of righteousness. By this, we confess faith in
the Lord Jesus publicly. This is how we do it. It's not
limited to that, obviously. We confess our faith in Christ
vocally. We confess our faith in Christ
speaking to folks about Him. We confess our faith in Christ
as we come and sing His praise. But this is how it begins. The
believer's initial confession of faith in Jesus Christ as he
gets into the water and said, I was crucified with Christ.
I died with Christ, I'm buried with Christ and I rise up with
Christ and I walk with Christ in the newness of life. And soon
I'm going to rise out of the grave in resurrection glory,
in the perfection of his righteousness. Thus it becometh us to fulfill
all righteousness. Then John suffered him, verse
16. And Jesus, when he was baptized, The word means immersed. There's
no other meaning of the word. Somebody said, well, baptism,
immersion is a mode of baptism. No. Immersion is baptism. Sprinkling
is not. Pouring is not. Immersion is
baptism. He went up straightway out of
the water. And, lo, the heavens were opened unto him. And he
saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting upon
him. Lo a voice from heaven saying
this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased Here is the
Savior upon the earth in the water And God the Holy Spirit
descends from heaven in the form of a dove remember what I told
John I Lord said to johnson when you see the spirit of god descend
and light and abide on him That's the messiah. That's the christ
And the spirit of god descends on god the son and the father
speaks from heaven This is my beloved son in whom i am well
pleased Turn over a few pages to matthew 28 Matthew 28 verse
19 Our Lord Jesus is speaking to
his disciples. And he says to us, go you therefore
and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the father
and of the son and of the Holy ghost. The Bible clearly teaches
that God is father, son, and Holy ghost. Look at John chapter
15, John 15. Give you just a minute to get
there, John 15, verse 26. But when the comforter, the comforter
is come, that one who comforts you by reproving you, convincing
you of sin and righteousness and judgment, convincing you
of faith in Christ, when the comforter is come, whom I will
send unto you from the father, even the spirit of truth, which
proceeded from the father, He will testify of me. God is Father,
Son, and Holy Ghost. All right, here's the third question.
Is the word one, O-N-E, one, is the word one used in the Bible
in reference to God? Does the Bible specifically tell
us God is one? is the word one used to speak
of him many, many times. Listen to the scriptures. Zechariah
chapter 14. Zechariah 14. And you just hold
your hands here in Mark chapter 9. You don't have to turn back
to Zechariah. You can listen to it and look it up later. Zechariah 14 verse
9. The Lord shall be king over all
the earth. And that day shall there be one
Lord and his name One. One Lord, and His name one. Father,
Son, and Holy Spirit. Three distinct persons. One Lord,
one God. Mark chapter 12. Mark chapter
12, verse 29. Jesus answered him, the first
of all commandments is this, hear, O Israel, The Lord our
God, the Lord singular definite article, our God is one Lord. One Lord. Now the word here,
one, isn't speaking of a unit, but of unity. It's not talking
about one unit. It's talking about a unity. It's
talking about a unity of heart, of purpose, of nature, of will,
of work. It's talking about unity. In
John 10, verse 30, the Lord Jesus said, I and my father are one. I and my father are one. He never
said, I am the father. The Lord Jesus said, I and my
father are one. Two distinct persons. But he
said, I and my father are one. Two persons who are one. One. One in purpose, in will, in work,
in labor, in intent, in nature, in essence, so on. You remember
how Paul spoke in 1 Corinthians chapter 3? He said, some say
I'm of Paul, or I'm of Apollos, and some said I'm of Cephas,
and some said I'm of Regius, father of Christ, or I'm of Paul.
And Paul says, he that planteth and he that watereth are one. What kind of confusion is that?
Is Paul saying that Paul is Apollos and Apollos is Paul and Paul
and Apollos are Peter? No. No. He's saying Paul and
Apollos and Peter and the Lord Jesus are one in this thing of
the gospel. One in intent. One in purpose. One in labor. And so the Lord
Jesus speaks. And he says, I and my Father
are one. not one unit, but one in unity,
one in purpose, one in desire. I and my Father are one, not
one person, but one God. In glory, you and I who are Christ
shall be conformed to our Lord, conformed to the image of our
Redeemer, so truly and completely one with Him in unity, in spirit,
in heart, in love, in all things, so truly one with Him that we
can't be separated. So it is with God the Father,
God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. I've got to hurry. Number
four, turn back to Psalm 89. Psalm 89. Can anyone Can anyone understand
the Trinity? Psalm 89, verse 6. God said, you thought that I
was altogether such a one as you are. Look here in Psalm 89. Men are forever trying to bring
God down. to their level. We want God like we are. We want to bring God down to
fit into our minds, to fit into our understanding. We want God
that we can make like ourselves. Such a God would be worthless
if you got him. Psalm 89, verse 6. Who in heaven
can be compared to the Lord? Who in heaven can be compared
to the Lord. Alan, God forbids us to make
such a comparison. He forbids us to compare Him
to a man, or to compare Him to an angel, or to compare Him to
anything that men can imagine. Holy and reverend is His name. Now hear me, my dear friends,
my brothers and sisters, hear me. Please listen to me. You
young people, and mamas and daddies alike, listen to me. I get so
weary. I get so weary of hearing folks
who I know reverence God and worship God, love our Redeemer,
use terms like gosh and golly and oh Lord and lordy and gee
and Jesus, like they were saying wood or cow pies. Now, I'm weary of that. I'm weary
of that. Reverence God. Don't think His
name without reverence, let alone speak it. And don't use His name
as a byword. Use my name if you want to, that'd
be alright. Not God's. Not God's. The Lord God, to whom
are you going to compare Him? Who among the sons of the mighty
can be likened to Him? Job asked this question. Canst
thou by searching find out God? Canst thou find out the Almighty
unto perfection, unto completion? It's high as heaven. What canst
thou do? Deeper than hell. What canst
thou know? The measure thereof is longer
than the earth and broader than the sea. I can't explain the
Trinity. Don't try. I preach it. I can't explain it. We receive
what God says in his word. Listen here to Isaiah 46. Isaiah
46. Just listen to me. Listen to
God. Even to old age, God says, I
am he. And even to whore hairs will
I carry thee. I have made, I will bear, even
I will carry and will deliver you. To whom will you liken me
and make me equal? and compare me that we may be
like. He says, you can trust me. I'm
God. Infinite beyond your highest
imagination God higher than you've ever Considered God to be God
mightier than you've ever considered God to be I'm God you can trust
I'll carry you. I'll carry you when you're old.
I'll carry you when it's dark I'll carry you through the deep
waters. I will carry you into heavenly glory number five Does
this book teach us that the father the son and the Holy Spirit?
Three distinct persons who are one God now now, can you show
me that is that found in the book? I believe I can look at
John chapter 3 and verse 35 John chapter 3 and verse 35 here we
are at that very familiar passage of scripture in John 3 where
the Lord Jesus has just finished giving instruction to Nicodemus
and now he's instructing us further in the doctrine of the gospel
and And in verse 35, we're told that one person of the Godhead
loves another. That these three distinct persons
are the same in essence, one God. John chapter 3, verse 35. The father loveth the son and
hath given all things into his hand. The father didn't love
himself and give all things into his hand. The father loved the
son and put all things in his hand. He that believeth on the
Son hath everlasting life. This everlasting life the Father
put in the Son's hands to give to you who believe. And he that
believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God
abideth on him. In Matthew 11, verse 27, our
Savior said, All things are delivered to me of my Father, and no man
knows the Son but the Father. Neither knoweth any man the Father
save the Son. The Son knows the Father, and
the Father knows the Son, and these two are one. Now listen
to this. You can quote it. Hebrews chapter 1, verse 8. Unto
the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever. A scepter of righteousness is
the scepter of thy kingdom. The Father speaks to the Son
and calls him God. The father speaks to the son
and calls him God. Jesus Christ, Jesus of Nazareth,
that man who's born of the virgin's womb, that man who is so really
and truly man, that he hungered and thirsted like any other man,
that he got weary and slept like any other man. He prayed and
lived by faith, the perfect man. That man who finally died at
Calvary, rose again and ascended on high. He is God. The God, the Father, calls God
the Son, the God-man, God. He addresses him as the God-man
and says, thy throne is forever and ever. The Comforter, which
is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, the Savior
said. He shall teach you all things and bring all things to
your remembrance. To whom are we like in God? That's
the question that the psalmist raised, that Job raised. And
that's the fact that we must understand. God is above the
understanding of humanity. God is above the comprehension
of humanity. Frank, the God we worship, serve,
and preach, the God we trust, is supernatural. He is supernatural. He is beyond the natural. He is the eternal, the Comforter,
who is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will see. One God in three
distinct persons. One person Glorifying the other
one person loving the other one person knowing the other one
person sending the other Father speaks of our Savior in his word
by his spirit says let this mind be in you which was also in Christ
Jesus Who being in the form of God? Thought it not robbery to
be equal with God This man who came here Jehovah's Servant to
live and die as our redeemer, our substitute, our savior, did
not think in any way that it was something he had to seek
after, something he had to reach for, something he had to grasp
after to be equal with God, for he is God. Now, we are one with
him. Here's the sixth question. Did
God have a son? before Jesus Christ was born
at Bethlehem? That's a good question. Proverbs
chapter six. Proverbs, I'm sorry, Proverbs
chapter 30. Proverbs chapter 30. He has since changed his doctrine,
but some of you are familiar with the name John MacArthur
out in California, Grace, some other church. And he's a highly
reputed fellow until just a few years ago. Until just a few years
ago, Mr. MacArthur denied that Jesus Christ
is the eternal son of God. He said you can't have an eternally
begotten son. If Christ is the only begotten
of the Father, then there must have been a time when he was
begotten of him. Well, that's Arianism. That's a denial of
the Trinity. Like I said, MacArthur has since
changed his doctrine and fitted in with folks that approve of
him now. But the doctrine is plain in
Scripture. Was God a father, the father
of the son, before the son was born of the virgin's womb at
Bethlehem? Yes, he was. Yes, he was. You
can't be a father if you don't have a son or a child. I was
trying to think of how to make some illustration of this. And
I just realized next month I will have been a father for 43 years. Now, I was a man before that,
and I was a husband before that. But 43 years ago, I became a
father. When? When I got a daughter,
I became a father. Now, you don't have to tell her
I said she's 43. Now, go ahead and tell her. It'd be all right.
It'd do good. 43 years old, next month, 43
years old, I became a father 43 years ago. God The father
was the father of the eternal son from everlasting. Let's see
if the book says so Proverbs chapter 30 verse 4 Who hath ascended
up to heaven or descended? Who hath gathered the wind in
his fist? Who hath bound the waters in
a garment who has established all the ends of the earth? What
is his name? See the next line? What's his
son's name? What's his son's name? Who is
a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ. He's anti-Christ. And denying that Jesus is the
Christ, he denies the Father and the Son. The doctrine of
Christ. John said, whosoever transgresseth
and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ. The doctrine of Christ.
is the doctrine concerning his person and work, the glory of
his person, and the finished glory of his work. In the beginning
was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. I'll give you
a better translation of that. In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God, and God was the Word. God was the
Word! There are three that by record
in heaven, the Father, and the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and
these three are one. Number seven. I'll just have
to give you this quickly and move on. Does Jesus Christ, this
man, who is our Savior, possess all the attributes of deity.
Attributes that can be ascribed only to God rightfully. Attributes
that can be ascribed only to God rightfully. Let me just give
you some of them. Only God is eternal. Only God is eternal. No such
thing as eternal matter. Only God is eternal. God created
all material things. Only God is eternal. And this
is what the Savior said, Before Abraham was, I am. Before Abraham was, I am. He doesn't say before Abraham
was, I was. He doesn't say, before Abraham
was, I is. He said, before Abraham was,
I am. That's the name, Bob, by which
God revealed himself to Moses when he sent him to deliver Israel
out of Egypt. Moses said, who shall I say sent me? He said,
you go tell them, I am has sent you unto them. And the Lord God
thus reveals himself as the eternal, self-existent, I am, Redeemer
and Savior. Only God is immutable. Immutable. Unchanged. Unchanging. Unchangeable. That's what immutability is.
Unchanged. Unchanging. Unchangeable. If it can be changed, it's not
God. If it can change itself, it's
not God. If it can increase and grow,
it's not God. If it can decrease and lower,
it's not God. If it can learn something, it's
not God. If it can forget something, it's
not God. Not God. No, no. Not in his character. God's immutable. I am the Lord. I change not. Therefore, you
sons of Jacob are not consumed. Well, but Brother Don, Didn't
Christ change when he came here in our flesh? Oh, no. No, no,
no, no, no. He just assumed our flesh. But
didn't it change when he died in our stead? Oh, no, no. That's
God who redeemed the church with his own blood. He didn't change.
But he can't forget anything. Hadn't he forgotten our sins?
From everlasting, he did. He didn't begin to forget them
in time. From everlasting, he forgot them.
God never learned anything. God never forgot anything. He's
God and this is Jesus Christ our God the same yesterday and
today and forever God is omnipresent Everywhere present our Savior
said spoke of himself on his standing on the earth. He said
The Son of Man is with the Father And he's standing there talking
to him He's omnipresent. He said lo I'm with you always
with all his people, all the time, everywhere in history,
omnipresent. He is the Alpha and the Omega,
the beginning and the end. He is God. And no attribute of
God, no essential character of God, nothing essential to the
being of God can be said not to be that which belongs to Christ.
Number eight, is the Holy Ghost a person? Indeed, he is. Let me give you one example.
In Acts chapter 5, you remember Ananias and Sapphira came and
bought, they sold their property and bought part of the gift and
laid it at the feet of the apostles and they acted as though, they
acted as though that was everything. They didn't actually say they
gave everything, they just acted like they'd given everything.
And they were damned in their behavior. Right on the spot,
slain right in the temple because Peter said, you have lied to
God. You've lied to God. And in the
sentence before that, David, he said, you've lied to the Holy
Ghost because God, the Holy Spirit is God as the father and the
son. Number nine, a person, a person
has self-awareness. Do the persons of the Trinity
possess self-awareness? Well, the father said, this is
my beloved son. in whom I am well pleased. The
Lord Jesus spoke to the Father and said, Father, glorify thou
me with thine own self, with thine own glory, with the glory
which I had with thee before the world was. And God, the Holy
Spirit, our Savior tells us, will not speak of himself, but
only of me. So that the Father, the Son,
and the Holy Spirit have personal self-awareness of their distinct
beings as one being God. Their distinct persons as one
being God. But don't you have to have a
body to be a person? Not hardly. Not hardly. Oh no. Turn to Hebrews
chapter 10. Hebrews chapter 10 verse 5. I'll wrap this up. Wherefore when he cometh into
the world he says sacrifice and offering Thou wouldest not but
a body hast thou prepared me Here is a person coming into
a body being prepared by God the Holy Spirit for him The Lord
Jesus comes into that holy thing not holy son, not holy child,
that holy thing conceived in the virgin's womb by God, the
Holy Spirit, because he comes as a person into this body. Soon I'm going to drop this body
in the grave and that's as it should be. That'd be all right.
That'd be all right. Soon I want to drop this body
in the grave, but I'm going to still be done. And I'm going
to still live, live as I never lived before, in the glory of
Christ Jesus, my Redeemer. All right, now listen to this.
Listen to this. Understanding there are three
that bear record in heaven. The Father, the Word, and the
Holy Ghost. And these three are one. The
grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. And the love of God. and the communion of the Holy
Ghost be with you. Amen.
Don Fortner
About Don Fortner
Don Fortner (1950-2020) served as teacher and pastor of Grace Baptist Church of Danville, Kentucky.
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