Let's turn now to our text. I love those old hymns which we've been singing for
a long, long time. They never grow old, like the
message which they preach never grows old. Isaiah chapter 6. Now, I do not know very much about dreams and visions. I do know this, I've never had
a dream that I thought was from God. As far as God inspiring or instructing
me, I've never had that type of experience and don't really
want one. I've never had a vision that
I believe was from God. Never. And I seriously question
those who claim to have visions and dreams in which God speaks
to them. I seriously question it. But now back before the Scriptures
were written, back before these words were recorded, which we're
reading this morning. Back before the New Testament
was written, God's prophets received God's Word from the Lord by dreams
and visions and God speaking personally to them. They did. They did have visions and they
did have dreams. That's before the Scriptures.
were written before they were complete. I'll show you that
in Numbers chapter 12. Turn to Numbers chapter 12. In
the 12th chapter of Numbers, you have the account of the rebellion
of Miriam, Moses' sister. I'm not going to read all of
it. But Miriam and Aaron, got angry with Moses because of a
woman that he had married. And they said in verse 2, they
said, Hath the Lord indeed spoken only by Moses? Hath he not spoken
also by us? And the Lord heard it. And the Lord, verse 5, the Lord
came down in a pillar of the cloud and stood in the door of
the tabernacle and called Aaron and Miriam, And they both came
forth. He called them to Him. And the Lord said to Miriam,
Moses' sister, and to Aaron, Hear now My words. If there be
a prophet among you, I, the Lord, will make Myself known unto him
in a vision, and I'll speak unto him in a dream. God did. Now hold it right there. Don't
leave that. Stay there a moment. He said, if there's a prophet
among you, I'll speak to him. I'll speak to him in a vision
or in a dream. But verse 7, My servant Moses is not so, who
is faithful in all mine house. With him will I speak mouth to
mouth, even apparently, and not in dark
speeches. And the similitude of the Lord
shall he behold. Wherefore then were you not afraid
to speak against my servant Moses? Alright, the Lord said, if there's
a prophet there, I'll speak to him. I'll speak to him by dreams
and visions. But Moses, God spoke to him mouth
to mouth as a man speaks to a friend. Turn to Hebrews 1. Hebrews chapter
1. And it tells us that in verse
1, God, who at sundry times and
in divers manners spake in times past unto the fathers of the
prophets." How does He speak to them? In different ways. How does He speak to us? Through
the written Word. How does He speak to these prophets? Different manners, different
ways, different times. What does He speak to them about?
About Christ. About Christ. If you turn to
Acts chapter 3, Acts, the third chapter, verse 18. It says here in Acts 3, 18. But those things which God before
had showed by the mouth of all his prophets, this is what he
showed by the mouth of his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he
hath so fulfilled. That's what he, to him, to Christ,
give all the prophets witness. Now then, in the New Testament,
God spoke to us by His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, and by these
apostles that He called to preach. He spoke to them through the
prophets, and He spoke to them through His Word. They wrote
the Word of God inspired by the Holy Spirit, but these Old Testament
prophets had dreams and visions. Moses, God spoke mouth to mouth. The New Testament apostles had
signs and wonders. Now turn to Hebrews 2. Hebrews
chapter 2. And verse 1 says this, in Hebrews
2 verse 1, Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed
to the things which we have heard. How do we hear them? Well, our
fathers heard them by the prophets. We've heard them from His Son.
lest at any time we should let them slip away, that is, go out
like water through a sieve as it leaks, slowly leaks out. For if the words spoken by angels
were steadfast, by the prophets of old, and every transgression
and disobedience received a just recompense of reward, How shall
we escape if we neglect so great salvation, now watch, which at
first began to be spoken by the Lord, our Lord Jesus Christ,
and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him, the apostles.
Now hold it. Let's read another verse. God
also bearing them witness. Now hold that there. Now let
me read you a scripture over here. which our Lord spake. He said this, Jesus answered
and said unto them, they said, if you be the Christ, tell us.
He said, I told you. And you didn't believe. The works
that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. No man
could do the miracles he did except God be with him. He said,
these works bear witness of me, that I'm telling you the truth.
Now, look at Hebrews 2 verse 3. This message was first spoken
by the Lord and confirmed unto us by them that heard him. Verse
4, God also bearing them witness, just like he did his son, both
with signs and wonders. and different miracles and gifts
of the Holy Ghost, not according to their will, according to His
will. And that's not necessary today. And people who try to
duplicate it and imitate it make fools of themselves and fools
of their supporters. Yes, God did speak to Isaiah
and the prophets by dreams and visions. But He doesn't speak
to us that way. He speaks through His Word. Nothing
needs to be added to this book or taken from it. And for me
to say, well, God spoke to Isaiah by dream. He has to speak to
me that way. No, He doesn't. Isaiah didn't have the recorded
Word. Isaiah wrote it. God gave him
the Word. And for me to say, well, Over
here, the Lord said they'll speak with other tongues. If they drink
any deadly thing, it won't hurt them. If they take up a serpent,
it won't hurt them. They can heal the sick, speak in other
languages. And I said, well, the apostles
had that gift, then that means I have to have it too. No, it
doesn't. I don't need any witness that I'm speaking for God except
to tell you to turn to Hebrews 1 or Galatians 2, the witness
of the Word. And I hear people say, well,
tongues are a sign you've been baptized with the Holy Ghost.
No, it's not. Turn to 1 Corinthians 14. Believers
don't need signs. It's unbelievers that need signs.
That's right. Believers don't need signs. They
said, show us a sign. Christ said, no sign will be
given. This sinful and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign,
and no sign will be given except Jonah and the prophets. Signs are for unbelievers. Miracles
are for unbelievers. God gave these Old Testament
prophets these dreams and visions that they might speak to the
people. And the people didn't have any word except from those
prophets. And they had to wait around to see what the prophet
heard from God. You don't have to sit down and
wait on me. You can read the word. There it is. Read it. What
does the Lord say, preacher? Read it. And then the apostles came along
preaching the gospel of God's grace, Christ fulfilling all
of the Old Testament. And so I said, well, how do we
know we're from God? He raised the dead. Can you raise the dead? No. You better listen to them
then. They heard, every man heard the gospel in their own language.
These were signs and wonders. Look at 1 Corinthians 14, 22.
Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but
to them that believe not. But preaching, prophesied preaching,
serveth not for them that believe not. They don't pay attention
to what you say. It's foolishness to them. But preaching is a wisdom
of God to those that believe. I didn't just ask what category
you're in this morning. You want tongues? You want gifts?
That's for unbelievers. Preaching is for believers. And
to unbelievers, unredeemed people, preaching is foolishness. They've
got no time for it. They've got no interest in it.
They've got no love for it. But a believer, it's the power
of God to him. So that's over here in verse,
in Isaiah chapter 6. This vision, Isaiah had a vision. And it came at a particular special
time. It says in verse 1 of Isaiah
6, in the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord. Well, who
was King Uzziah? Well, let's turn to the book
of Chronicles, 2 Chronicles. And let's see who King Uzziah
was. 2 Chronicles chapter 26. 2 Chronicles chapter 26. He was the 10th king from David. He ruled at about 700 or 800
B.C. He became king when he was 16
years old. And he was a good king, a very
good king. 2 Chronicles 26, look at verse
1. Then all the people of Judah
took Uzziah, who was 16 years old, and made him king in the
room of his father, Amaziah. And he built Eloth and restored
it to Judah. And after that, the king slept
with his fathers. Sixteen years old was Zechariah
when he began to reign. He reigned fifty-two years in
Jerusalem. Mother's name also was Zechariah
of Jerusalem. Now watch this. And he did that
which was right in the sight of the Lord according to all
that his father, Amaziah, did. And he sought God. He sought
God in the days of Zechariah. who had understanding in the
visions of God. That's the prophet, Zechariah.
And as long as he sought the Lord, God made him to prosper.
He was a good kid. People loved him. Isaiah loved
him. Somewhere in the scriptures it
said Isaiah wrote down everything he did. Let's see what he did. Over here in verse 15, 2 Chronicles
26. He was a smart king, a good king,
52 years. He made in Jerusalem engines
invented by cunning men to be on the towers, upon the bulwarks,
to shoot arrows and great stones with all. His name spread far
abroad. He was marvelously helped. Well,
he was strong. But when he was strong, his heart
was lifted up to his destruction, for he transgressed against the
Lord his God. And he went into the temple of
the Lord to burn incense upon the altar of incense." Now listen,
I've taught you enough here about the temple, the tabernacle, that
you know this king is violating the type of Christ, the picture
of Christ. You see, in the temple, just
like the tabernacle, there was the outer court where there was
the table of showbread, and the candlestick, and up here in front
of the veil, the incense. And within the veil, in the holy
place, was the place where you put the blood on the mercy seat.
Well, the Scripture says, into the holy of holies went no man.
Into the outer court went no man, save the priest only, the
priest of God. Only the priest of God can burn
incense and offer sacrifice. Only the high priest can offer
the atonement. Not a prophet and not a king,
but the priest, the high priest, the one ordained of God in things
pertaining to God and men. Well, the king was proud and
lifted up, and he went in there to burn incense and offer sacrifice. Look at verse 17. And Azariah,
the priest, went in after him. He just went right into the temple,
right into the holy place. And the priest came in after
him, with him eighty priests of the Lord, were valiant men.
And they withstood Uzziah the king, and said to him, It appertaineth
not unto thee, Uzziah, to burn incense unto the Lord, but to
the priests, the sons of Aaron, that are consecrated to burn
incense. Get out of the sanctuary. You've trespassed. Neither shall
it be for your honor from the Lord God. Get out quickly. You see, what Isaiah is doing
is bypassing Christ. Our Lord said, I'm the way, the
truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father but
by me. Without the shedding of blood, there's no remission,
without a priest. The priest comes to God. The
priest brings the blood. The priest brings atonement.
The priest brings the prayer in the Old Testament. have a
high priest who's Christ our Lord. He's the priest forever
after the order of Melchizedek. And this man is committing a
serious offense. He's going around Christ. He's saying, I don't need the
priest. I don't need a sacrifice. I'll come to God myself. Verse 19, the priest tried to
get him up to it. Verse 19, this is the king. Isaiah, we've said all these
good things about him and they were true, but not a man of understanding
in spiritual matter. A man of brilliance. So long
did that which was right in God's eye. Used of God to be a blessing
to the people. Now lifted up with pride. Now haughty before God. And he was angry, and he had
a censer in his hand to burn incense. You know what incense
burning is? It's the prayers of Christ. Only
the priest handled those things. Only the priest. This is terrible. And while he was wroth with the
priest, leprosy even rose up in his forehead. That's the worst
thing that could happen to a fellow then, leprosy. Leprosy. That's to be an outcast. When a man got leprosy or a woman
got leprosy, they were put without the camp. They weren't allowed
to associate with anybody. They were separated from the
people of God, separated from the things of God, cast out in
the wilderness. When anybody came their way,
they had to say unclean. Imagine, here's the highest man
in the kingdom, the king. Beloved, Isaiah loved
him. Wrote everything he did. People
followed him for 52 years. Time he's 16 years old. He was
their beloved kid. And now, they had to throw him
out. Nobody could associate with him
or identify with him. Leprosy rose up in his forehead
before the priest in the house of God, and besides the incense
altar. And Azariah, the chief priest,
and all the priests looked upon him, and behold, he was leprous
in his forehead. And they thrust him out from
thence. Yea, himself hasted also to go
out, because God had smitten him. And he was a leper until
the day of his death. That's when Isaiah said, I saw
the Lord. When my friend, King Uzziah,
died, I saw the Lord. That was a time when God chose
to deal with Isaiah in a special manner through a vision. See,
Isaiah himself, one of the greatest prophets of the Old Testament,
Isaiah is quoted more in the New Testament than any other
book except Psalms. Doesn't matter, just name any
book in the Old Testament. Isaiah is quoted more than any
book except the Psalms. John the Baptist began his ministry
quoting Isaiah. That's right. Our Lord Jesus
Christ, the Son of God, when He came to Nazareth where He
grew up, in his hometown to speak for the first time in the synagogue,
chose Isaiah for his text. Isaiah 61. The eunuch who was
seeking the Lord, to whom God sent Philip, the preacher, was
reading Isaiah. And John, the beloved John, quoted
this vision in John 12, and he said, when Isaiah saw the Lord,
and His glory, He spake of Him. Oh my! Well, let's see what he
saw. In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord sitting
on a throne high and lifted up, and His train filled the temple.
Who did Isaiah see here? The Lord. The Lord Jesus Christ. That's who he saw. He didn't
see God essentially. He didn't see God absolute. He didn't see God in His truth,
in God's nature, because God's a spirit. That's right. God's a spirit. No man can look
on God and live. God told Moses that. But he saw
here the Lord Jesus Christ, whom we have seen in His Word. That's right. He's the revelation
of God. No man has seen God at any time, Christ said. Save the
Son. He to whom the Son will live
in. Isaiah saw the Lord Jesus Christ. He saw Him where? On
a throne. On a throne. The Lamb in the
midst of the throne. He saw Him how? Lifted up. God
hath exalted Him and given Him a name which is above every name,
that at the name of the Lord Jesus Christ every knee will
bow and confess that He is Lord. I saw the Lord. I saw Him on
a throne. Seated, his work finished. This
is the risen, exalted Redeemer that he's seeing. His work finished,
sitting on a throne, high and lifted up. And his train filled
the temple. What's that? That's his skirts.
That's the skirts of the high priest. The old high priest,
before he went into the Holy of Holies to bring the sacrifice,
the atonement, they would dress him with his mitre, with his
breastplate, with his linen garments, and with the skirts flowing down
to the ground, and he would carry that blood into the Holy of Holies
with the incense, and the smoke filled the place, and the skirts
of the high priest with the bells on it, they could hear them rustling
and ringing. And he says here, I saw my high
priest, I saw the Lord, seated on the throne, the Lord Jesus
Christ, Jehovah, my Savior, high and lifted up, and the skirts
of his priestly robe filled the temple." I heard the bells ringing. Listen, and above it, he saw,
what did he see next? He saw the holiness of Christ.
Above it stood the seraphims. Who are these seraphims? Well,
many people believe it's the ministers of Christ. The ministers
of Christ. This whole vision, you see, began
with the holiness of God. This whole vision began with
the death of Isaiah, because he violated the holiness of God. The holiness of God. He dared
to come into the presence of God without the blood, without
the sacrifice, without the priest, without the atonement. He violated
the holiness of God. And God showing Isaiah what?
His holiness. He said, I saw Him. I saw Him
high and lifted up. His train filled the temple,
and above it stood the seraphim. And they had six wings, and with
two they covered their faces in humility before the Lord. And with two they covered their
feet in shame, because they know what their walk has been. But
with two they did fly. They flew in haste to what? Proclaim
what? His message. What message? They
cried one to another. What did they cry? God is love. God is love. God is love. God
is, but that's not their message. I saw the Lord high and lifted
up. His trains, His priestless skirts literally filled the temple
as did His incense, His prayer, seated on a throne. And I saw
the seraphims, the messengers of the covenant, the messengers
of the gospel, as they flew around His throne, and they covered
their faces because they were humble in His presence. They
covered their feet because their feet had been stained with the
walk through this world. But two wings they flew, and
they cried, Holy! Holy! Holy is the Lord of hosts. Uzziah, he's holy. Israel, he's
holy. I will be sanctified by them
that come down to me, he said. I'm holy. Don't run in unless
you've got a command to come and a priest by whom you can
come and a sacrifice. Don't rush in. Luther said, I
want nothing to do with that absolute God. Elohim. I want nothing to do with him.
That's exactly right. You don't either. Because he's
holy. Holy, holy, holy is the Lord
of hosts. The whole earth is full of his
glory. Awesome majesty, dwelling in
a light to which no man can approach. I saw the Lord. There it is. And I know religions full of
hucksters and False prophets there and false
preachers today and folks that have got an idea of God, they
talk to God and talk about God and God talks to them. It's just
sort of a buddy system, you know. And the post of the door moved
as the voice of him that cried in the house was filled with
smoke. And here's Isaiah's reaction. He saw the Lord, Jesus Christ,
He saw his holiness, and then he saw himself. He said, oh,
woe is me. Woe is me. I'm undone. The Amplified Version
says I'm ruined. I'm ruined. I'm undone and I'm
ruined. Another version says I'm reduced
to silence. I'm forced to be silenced because
of my sins and my violence and my corruption because I'm a man
of unclean lips. He doesn't say anything about
his heart, does he? But I tell you this, the lips
are the outlet of the heart. And if the fountain's good, the
water will be good. If the water's bad, it means
the fountain's bad. That's what he's saying. I'm a man of unclean
lips. The outlet of my heart is my
mouth. And I dwell in the midst of a
people with unclean lips. Woe is me. What brought this
conviction? What brought this, I'm undone,
I'm cut off, I'm reduced to silence? What stripped him and broke him
and humbled him and made him to confess his sins? I'm a man
of unclean lips. My people, people of unclean
lips. Here's the reason. For mine eyes
have seen the King, the Lord of hosts. That did it. That did
it. Oh, that did it. It'd be impossible for man to
continue to be proud in the presence of the Lord God, wouldn't it,
if he really saw the Lord? It'd be impossible for man to
stand around and talk about his holiness if he ever saw the Lord's
holiness, wouldn't it? It'd be impossible for a man
to stand around and talk about his goodness and his faithfulness
and his works if he ever stood in the presence, the awesome,
awesome, awesome, unchangeable, holy presence of our holy God. A man may look at others and
say, I thank you, Lord, I'm not like other men. He can do that. He can look around
him and say, well, boy, I'd never do that. I'm glad I'm not like
that person. And a man may look at a set of
commandments and say, I've kept those. You got anything else
you want me to do? That's what the rich young ruler
said, I've kept all of them. A man may look at a law of days
and feasts and fastings and sacrifice and religious custom and tradition
and religious rules and standards of churches and say, I can handle
that. I'm blameless. But let any son of Adam be exposed
to a correct view of the holiness of God. And the response will
always be, woe is me. If you look back at chapter 5,
Isaiah had a habit of saying, woe is them. He said it five
times in the preceding chapter. Chapter 5, verse 8, "...warned
to them that join house to house, and lay field to field," and
so forth. Verse 11, "...warned to them that rise up early in
the morning, that they may follow strong drink." Verse 18, "...warned
to them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity." Verse 20, "...warned
to them that call evil good, and good evil." Verse 22, "...warned
to them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to
mingle strong drink." Warned to them. Warned to them. And
then he saw the Lord and he cried, woe is me. That's what Job said,
when I saw the Lord, I put my hand on my mouth and I said,
I've spoken once, twice, I'll never speak again. I'm vile. You see, His perfect love reveals
our malice. Malice never appears to be what
it is except before His perfect love. That's the reason you can
preach hellfire and brimstone and convert nobody. Because sin and evil doesn't
appear to be sin and evil in the presence of sin and evil.
It appears to be sin and evil in the presence of perfect holiness.
Preach God's love, God's grace, God's goodness. That leads men
to repentance. Because they see they don't have
it. His perfect faith reveals our unbelief. His perfect obedience
reveals our rebellion. His perfect wisdom reveals our
foolishness. I saw the Lord. I saw His holiness. I saw myself. Alright, look at
verse 6. Then flew one of the seraphims
unto me, one of those messengers, one of those preachers. He flew
unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken
with the tongs from the altar. And he laid it on my mouth, laid
it on my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched your lips,
and your iniquity is taken away, and your sin is purged. Now,
let me say two things. What happens when God is pleased
to reveal Himself, His holiness, His righteousness, His truth
to a man? and reveal to that man his sinfulness
and inability and wretchedness. What's God doing? What happens
when God does that? When God does that, He always
reveals His grace. The Lord God will never get a
man lost whom He doesn't intend to save. The Lord will never
strip a man unless he intends to clothe him. I promise you. A man will never be broken and
humbled unless God intends to exalt him. That's a fact. Go through the words, see if
it's not true. Other people, he left them alone. He said of
Ephraim, leave him alone. He said of the Pharisees, leave
him alone. But God Almighty showed Isaiah his glory, his holiness,
his majesty, his righteousness. And that showed Isaiah his nakedness
and sin. He cried, where is me? I'm a
man of unclean lips, a sinner. And then the Lord, and then the
Lord sent a seraphim to him. Sent
a seraphim. Now, this is not hard to interpret
at all because of the results. I know what's happening here
because of the results. The results are in verse 7 said,
your iniquity is taken away and your sin is purged. There ain't
but one way for iniquity to be taken away. That's the blood
and the cross and the sacrifice of the Son of God. There's only
one way for sin to be purged. He purged our sins by Himself. So this seraphim came and he
had in his hand A live coal. The gospel's living. The Word
of God's living. This is the gospel. Which He
took from where? The altar. The cross. The death
of the Son of God. And He took it with tongs. Human
hands never touched it. Human hands couldn't touch it.
I see the priest. As he takes... Here's people
on their knees in front of him. He takes a wafer and dips it
in the wine. And he gives it with his hand.
That's wrong. That's wrong. Any true servant
of God will not let his hand in any way, or his interpretation,
or his doings or dealings, try to convert anybody, or give Christ
to anybody. This seraphim flew. Hasted with
the good news, with the gospel. The live coal, the living Word,
which he took. from the altar, from the cross,
and he took it not with his stained hands, but with his perfect tongs."
Only between God and the sinner is the life cold, not the person.
Touched his lips. Touched the place of the offense. He touched my mouth, he touched
my lips, and he says, Your iniquity is taken away and
your sins are purged. Purged. By the cross of Christ,
by the blood of Christ. Now, watch this and I'll quit.
And I heard the voice of the Lord say, now whom shall I send? Who will go for me? And Isaiah
said, hear my, send me. I've got something to say now.
There are millions of preachers who don't have anything to say. You see, Isaiah experienced everything
that he's talking about here. I saw the Lord. Till you see
Him, you can't tell about Him. I saw His holiness. Till you
see it, you can't tell about it. I saw myself. Till you see
it, you can't tell about it. And I saw the gospel. I saw substitution. I saw purging. I saw forgiveness. I saw the cross. I saw the Lamb
of God lifted up on an altar. That's where a lamb is slain.
And I saw my sins put away, not by my doing and not by my profession
and not by my service, put away by His grace. He touched me,
shackled by a heavy burden, bent beneath a load of shame. Then
the hand of Jesus touched me. And I'm no longer the same. He
touched me. Touched my lip. Touched my lip. So I said, who
will go? And he said, I'll go. I'll go. Well, what am I going to tell
them? Isaiah 40. Turn over there a
minute. Isaiah 40. Tell you what you tell them.
Tell you what you tell them. Isaiah chapter 40. Verse 5, And
the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall
see it all together. For the mouth of the Lord is
spoken, and the voice said, Cry! And I said, What shall I cry? I'll tell you what to cry. Number
one, all flesh is grace. And the goodliness thereof is
as the flower of the field. The grass withereth, the flower
fadeth, because the Spirit of the Lord bloweth upon it. Surely
the people is grass. The grass withereth, the flower
fadeth." That's what you tell them, that they're nothing. But tell them, secondly, the
Word of our God endureth forever, standeth forever. Who's the Word
of God? Christ the Word. Christ the Word. O Zion, that bringeth good tidings,
bringeth good tidings, get up to high mountain, O Jerusalem,
that bringeth good tidings, lift up your voice with strength,
lift it up, don't be afraid, say to the cities, number three,
behold your God, Christ the Lord. Behold, your
God will come with a strong hand, His arm will rule for him, His
rewards with him, His works before him, and He'll feed His flock
like a shepherd. Gather the lambs in his arms,
and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead them that
are with you." That's your message. Go back to my text, just a moment,
just a moment. Verse 8, who will go? He said,
here am I, send me. And he said, all right, go. And
you tell them, you tell them. But they're not going to understand
you, and they're not going to believe you. They're not going
to hear you. Some will, because God touches
their hearts. God touches their lips, like
He touched Isaiah. They'll hear you. But many won't. Our Father, thank You for the
Word. Oh, thank You for the Word. Thank
You You've not left us alone, left us to our own foolishness
and traditions and customs, but you've given us the glorious
message of redemption in Christ our Lord, given us a sight of
a little understanding of your glory and your holiness and of
our sinfulness, and of our great High Priest, our Lord Jesus Christ,
in whom we have eternal life. Bless the Word, make it effectual.
For Christ's sake, Amen.