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Friday Night Bible Study - 2 Thessalonians 3:6-12

Jesse Gistand June, 15 2012 Audio
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Jesse Gistand
Jesse Gistand June, 15 2012

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I'm gonna read verses six through
11 again, and then we're gonna start working through our outline
where it talks about the gospel demands walking uprightly. In
verse six through 11, now we command you, brethren, in the
name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw yourself from
every brother that walketh disorderly and not after the tradition which
he received of us. For yourselves know how you ought
to follow us For we behave not ourselves disorderly among you.
Neither did we eat any man's bread for naught, but wrought
with labor and travail night and day, that we might not be
chargeable to any of you. Not because we have no power,
but to make ourselves an examples unto you to follow us. For even
when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would
not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some
which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busy
bodies. Verse 12. Now them that are such
we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ that with quietness
they work and eat their own bread. Thus is the reading of the scriptures. It's quite interesting the way
the apostle is closing out second Thessalonians because One might
think that the church at Thessalonica is an extremely dysfunctional
church, but that would be the furthest from the truth. The
fact of the matter is the church of the Thessalonians is one of
the most model apostolic churches in the New Testament. When you
read chapter one and chapter two of First Thessalonians, you
have enormous commendations given by the Apostle Paul to the church
at Thessalonica. So in your own mind, be sure
to note that as we are dealing with certain maladies that are
in the church right now, in the Thessalonian church, these are
just segments or portions of the church that are problematic. And with that, here's the instruction.
Uh, there are those in the church who don't always conform to what
God has called them to be. There are those in the church
who don't always conform to what God has called them to be. And
sometimes it is essential to address or put one's efforts
in addressing what has the potential to be problematic elements in
the church. The mindset on the part of some
could be that, well, since the church by and large has been
doing well, then why would the apostle devote a whole chapter
or at least several verses? And in fact, he addressed this
in 1 Thessalonians as well. Why would Paul want to close
out his epistle dealing with such a small matter if that is
the only element there in the church of Thessalonica? Well,
here's the principle and don't forget it. This will apply in
the local church. This will apply in business,
and this will apply in family as well. Here's the principle.
Why would we address what could be a very problematic element
in the church, even though at the moment it doesn't dominate?
Why would we do it? Because a little leaven leavens
the whole lump. Because a little leaven leavens
the whole lump. And so the apostle Paul is devoting
himself to dealing with the problem of, and we'll start here, disorderly
people. This is going to be the sum and
substance of our discourse and exegesis tonight. Disorderly
persons in the church. It appears to the apostle Paul
that there were enough people in the church at Thessalonica
as small as that constituency might be, that were problematic
in such a way that if Paul didn't address it with his apostolic
authority, it had the potential of distracting the church and
derailing its agenda. Now, a small thing can create
a big problem over time when you neglect it. A small issue
can create a big problem over time when you neglect it. We
will lay down right now some very pragmatic principles that
apply in almost every aspect of life, and then we'll be able
to carry them over into the kingdom of God. A small matter can create
a huge problem, and in some cases, an insurmountable and incorrectable
problem over a long period of time if they are neglected. Am I telling the truth? Now,
immediately I know I get a resonation with those of you who are parents,
because you know that we've had the... uh, uncanny and experience
from time to time with a child who may have been behaving himself
or herself in a fashion that we know was not right, not proper,
but we were ambivalent and we were not decisive. We didn't
have a plan or agenda or a structure. And we kind of just prayed and
hope that problem would go to go away. Right. But it only grew. And after a while it became such
a problem. as was too big for us. Is that
true? And the next thing you know,
that parent parental admonition or parental instruction or parental
discipline is not enough for a problem now that can only be
solved by the judicial authorities. And, you know, parents are now
at a quagmire because we really don't want to see our children
having to be dealt with by the judicial system because the judicial
system doesn't love your children. It doesn't have any emotional
connection to your children. It doesn't have any interest
in the human element of your children. It pretends to have
uh, resources and institutions and elements that will deal with
the psychological aberrations that leads your children to do
what they do. But ultimately your child is nothing but a statistic. They make money by placing them
in categories and you know, it can be a hard experience for
a young man or a young woman who does not really gain, uh,
principles of discipline in the home, uh, as a consequence of
delayed gratification, uh, a meritocratic, structure by which you labor
and there is reward for honest labor and those kinds of things
that are essential to what we call good character which is
what we're about to get into the Apostle Paul is going to
remind us of how essential that is for the gospel church But
when one of our children slips through the cracks and thinks,
think that they can actually successfully negotiate this world
apart from good principles, then now they're going to meet the
government. They're going to meet the judiciary. They're going
to meet the law. And the law is designed to be
hard. It's designed to be punitive.
It's designed to punish. And what Paul is doing in the
local church is teaching the local church that it is critical
that we do not, as the local church, fall prey to the standards
of the culture. The local church must not fall
prey to the standards of culture. Our culture today is very permissive. Our culture today is extremely
powerless. When it comes to areas of discipline,
there is no discipline in our culture today. And so our culture
has a set of dictums and ingredients that basically promote rebellion,
promote disorder, promote chaos. That's what we're about to get
into now. And and it can drive parents
crazy. The apostle Paul wants to stop
this because he knows that it will derail the church. You'll
see how this opens up as we deal with verses six through 11. But
in your outline, I want you to notice verse six at the top.
Again, the gospel demands what? Walking uprightly. Do you guys
see that in your outline? Okay, I just wanna make sure
you got it. Get a testimony against yourself. Because you know, Christian
folk act like they can only hear part of what the preacher is
saying. That's why I love the call and response. So you can
bear witness against yourself. So the gospel demands what? Yeah,
some of you still scared to say it. Walking. And we talked about walking before,
that is a strong Hebrew ideological concept that has to do with a
way of life. whole body, our volume of literature,
a corpus was written in the Jewish culture called the Halakha. The
Halakha. And what it was is instructions
about how you conduct yourself as a child of God. Extensive
instructions about the practical aspects of the walk of the Christian. The Halakha was ingrained in
the Hebrew child. It was ingrained in the Jewish
child. It was ingrained in the apostle
Paul, who was a Jewish theologian himself. So he would have been
able to quickly recall the instructions that he received as a child and
carry those over into the gospel, being himself a father in the
church. And he would instruct the church
to embrace those biblical principles about conduct that leads to fruitfulness
and productivity. If you want a book, young men,
that's going to help you direct you and bring you to a state
of success in your life. The book in the Bible for you
to read that's going to make you wise in the salvation and
productive in your life is the book of Proverbs. Devote yourself
to the Proverbs and it will change your life. The Proverbs will
change your life, young man. It will speak directly to you,
young man, and it will give you the keys to the kingdom. It will
show you how to behave, how to understand, how to see, how to
respond, how to discern, how to determine, how to devote,
how to commit, how to get out of trouble. The book of Proverbs
is enormous. And I mean, when I say young
man, I'm talking about anybody in here that's 80 and younger,
young man. You young man, the proverbs will
deliver you because one of the problems in our culture, and
you know, this is a lack of wisdom. We don't have the necessary wisdom
to outwit this diabolical system that has enslaved us and brought
us into the different bondages we are in. And the wisdom that
we need to be able to negotiate this system and to nullify it
is in the book of Proverbs. Start reading the Proverbs and
you will be amazed at how they unfurl for you scenarios and
episodes and events that correspond to everything that's going on
in your life and then give you an answer as to how to deal with
it. And you will thank God for being resourced with the tools
to begin to fight this system that you cannot win. because
the wisdom of this world is greater than the innate wisdom that you
have apart from the grace of God. The Halakha was writings
that talked to us about our walk, how we conduct ourselves and
whether we want to admit it or not. At the end of the day, is
this not true, ladies and gentlemen, how we conduct ourselves will
determine our happiness or sorrow. I don't care what people say
at the end of the day, you cannot violate the law of reciprocity. You just cannot do it. Every
man, woman, child will reap what they sow. Will we not? We will
reap what we saw. I love Jacob being honest. He's
one hundred and ten years, one hundred and thirty years old.
And he finally makes it to Egypt after many years. Remember, tricky
Jacob. This is the brother God loved, but he thought he could
carry his sneaky methodology and techniques into the kingdom.
But what God says is those little those little foxes will eat up
the vine yet and steal if you continue to operate out of those
principles. And when he met Pharaoh for the first time, While his
son Joseph was being honored as the second in command over
all of Egypt and thus the world the co-regent with Pharaoh Pharaoh
asked Jacob how he was doing Jacob says I am a hundred and
thirty years old. My life has been few and full
of evil My years have been few and full now watch this. He's
a hundred and thirty. That's a long time, isn't it?
And yet he says it's been few years and full of evil. Now,
why does he call it few years? Because much of what he went
through was suffering, which he reaped for the choices that
he made. Do you guys understand what I'm
getting at? And so it's very important for you and I to know
that we might ostensibly be one of God's elect and have the blessings
of being saved. I don't know. I'll leave that
caveat out there for you to determine. But your life or my life can
be so messed up, so entangled with with destructive elements. At the end of the day, the only
thing we could say is our years have been few and full of evil
and it doesn't have to be that way. It doesn't we don't have
to have a life whose majority is basically predicated upon
sorrow and pain. There's going to always be sorrow
in your life. Please be sure of that. But it doesn't have
to be the preponderance thereof. So we read in verse six. Now,
we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
that you withdraw yourselves. Do you see that? withdraw yourselves
from every brother that walketh disorderly and not after the
traditions which you have received of us. Now verse six gives a
very powerful, powerful imperative. The word is withdraw. Now this
is a term, this is a term that is a very radical and decisive
act that Paul says one must execute when you come across that brother
who fails to walk in order. And here's the reason why. And
we'll deal with that particular verb here in a moment. But in
your outline, verse number six, here's the reason why you got
to be careful not to engage and get entangled with disorderly
people. Are you ready? Look at the proposition. Chaos will produce more chaos. Chaos will produce more chaos. Chaos will produce more chaos.
When God leaves this world system to itself, if it's in a state
of chaos, it can only devolve and become more chaotic. Chaos
never results in order where God is absent. Chaos never corrects
itself where God is not present, dynamically overcoming the internal
principles of chaos. Chaos is the devolutionary process
and the destructive process that is inherent in a sin-cursed world.
This is what evolution is all about. It's a lion upside down
on his head because the factual empirical evidence of evolution
is that everything is suffering from a decaying process. Things
do not evolve, they devolve. And out of a desperation for
survival in this sort of death matrix, One entity will try to
overcome another entity within the framework of that particular
classification in order to survive. It may look like evolution, but
all it is is the destructive principles of sin. Like you and
I, from the moment we were conceived, we're in a process of dying.
As soon as we left the womb, We have been dying. That's why
I've said it so many times before. When babies come out the womb,
you ain't never heard a baby laugh coming out the womb into
this world. No baby has ever demonstrated
great joy for being here. Intuitively, deep down in their
soul, that baby is struggling to survive just like you and
I are. So our bodies and our minds are innately aware that
we have been conceived into a struggle. And as we get older, we see the
losing of that battle on a physical level. We see the losing of that
battle on a mental level, the deterioration of our bodies,
even for those of us who are redeemed. And so sickness entails
and other things. This here is the devolutionary
process of sin is what God says in the day that you eat of the
tree of the knowledge of good and evil in dying, you will die
a thousand deaths. That's our Hebrew double infinitive. In dying, you will continue to
die in various ways. So the death process in the human
race has been going on since the fall of Adam. And what you
and I in God's glorious mercy are experiencing is a redemptive
process that stands over against this destructive process by which
there is some hope as the two are in conflict with one another.
Redemption, destruction. They are both working within
the same sphere. So in our account, what we have
here is an individual who is either unsaved or if he or she
is saved, they are so walking in the flesh that they're giving
themselves over to the chaos process. Now, the proverb puts
it like this. Do not go with them that are
given to change, for you will learn their ways and get a snare
to your soul. Do not go with the man or the
woman that's always changing their mind, always vacillating,
waking up today with this idea, tomorrow got another idea. They're
topsy-turvy, they're inconsistent, they're all over the map, that's
called chaos. Don't follow a person that's
chaotic in their thinking, that doesn't have a plan, no clarity,
no perspective, no consistency, no order and structure. You don't
follow such a person, that person is blind. And the blindly, the
blind both do what? Fall into the ditch. And so this
is why Paul, for one reason, he is saying in verse six, the
radical response necessary when you come across the disorderly
brother or sister is to withdraw yourself. You see that phrase?
Withdraw yourself. In your outline, chaos will produce
more chaos. Disorder is contrary to the character
of God. See that proposition? Do you
believe that's true? Do you believe that disorder
is contrary to the character and nature of the true and the
living God? Has not God revealed to us that he is a God of order?
Hasn't he revealed it to us by revelation of creation and by
revelation of scripture, that he is a God of order. In six
days, the Lord made heaven and earth. And on the seventh day,
he rested from all of his works. In chapter two, God said, everything
that he made was good. Because it was done orderly,
progressively, and it was done with purpose. Orderly, progressively,
and with purpose. Everything had a place, everything
had a goal, everything had an objective, everything had a design.
And watch this, in Ecclesiastes 3, you know what God says? Everything
is beautiful when it's in its place. Isn't that what it says? Everything is beautiful when
it's in its place. And it's not beautiful when it's
removed from the place that it's supposed to be. So here's the
warning. If you and I are given over to
persons who disregard order and structure and discipline and
purpose, we're going to actually be aiding and abetting in the
chaos. Sometimes we meet people that
we have these strange affinities with. A man will meet a woman
or a woman will meet a man. Most of the time, it's the woman
meet the man. It's just true. And that individual is operating
out of these chaotic, destructive principles. And she's following
him, hoping that he will change. But that's precisely what the
proverb says. You watch a person's conduct
and see whether or not they have structure, they have discipline,
they have purpose, they have objective, they have goals. They
have an agenda that they think clearly, that they're an orderly
person, that they reason rationally, that they actually are walking
in wisdom. If they don't have that, you have no business being
with them. They will distract you from your agenda. They will
cause you to waste your time as well. Am I making some sense?
It's very important that you know that. So I want to share
with you three or four verses that underscore this proposition.
The God of the Bible does not. He does not exalt chaos. He can
overcome chaos. Chaos is nothing for the true
and the living God, but chaos is not the hallmark of the true
and the living God's initial and objective work. Turn with
me in your Bible to 1 Corinthians chapter 14. Let me read verses
31 through 33. 1 Corinthians chapter 14. I want
you to see this. So in 1 Corinthians chapter 14, where Paul is once
again speaking, he's addressing the church at Corinth because
Corinth has bought into the chaos principle too. The chaos principle
is a principle of adolescence. And the principle of adolescence
is this. Because of a lack of appreciation for longstanding
traditions and values and structure and discipline, and because As
a young person, you are often testosterone-driven or estrogen-driven
and willing, therefore, to challenge the status quo. What excites
the young person is destruction, chaos. Come on now, give me a
witness. You got a baby, that beautiful
little baby, gorgeous in his or her own right. but by the
time they are 11 or 12 months old and can begin to exercise
certain willful powers and rights, don't they go around the house
tearing up everything? In fact, watch this now. I know
that a baby is in your house by the way your house looks when
I come in it. So I have to use this kind of analogy because
if I don't use this analogy for some of us because we're ignorant
of deep and profound biblical truths, there's no connection.
But I'm making a connection, am I not? If I come in your house
and I see the house all scattered about, carpet everywhere, stuff
pulled down on the floor, things just disheveled all over the
place, I can say this, if there are young children here, this
is the reason for which the house looks this way. And what these
are are evidences of that pre-adolescent stage of being stimulated by
chaos. Order threatens the young person. For the older person, order is
a sense of peace, a sense of clarity, a sense of control,
a sense of blessing, right? And this is why grandma and grandpa
only have the children over to visit. Because they're done with
all those years of the house being a mess from the front door
to the back door, and especially in the bathroom, in the bedrooms.
And you can't have anybody over because your children are just
Tasmanian devils. And the fundamentals that I'm
laying down are critical to understand because they carry over into
the spiritual realm. The church is a body, the church
is a family. That's what the Bible says. The
church has elders, the church has leaders, the church has mothers,
the church has fathers, the church has people who ostensibly know
how to walk in order and structure, discipline, purpose. And they
have to inculcate those same structural disciplines and purposes
in the life of the members of the body who can be viewed as
babies and children. The church at Corinth wanted
to act a fool with all the gifts of the spirit. They just wanted
to tear up stuff. So the apostle Paul speaks in
first Corinthians chapter 14 this way as we start in verse
31. Are you there? For you might
all prophesy one by one that all may learn and all may be
comforted. And the spirits of the prophets
are subject to the whom. Do you guys see that? You know
what that means? No person who believes that they
are gifted to communicate biblical truth has the right to say, I
couldn't help myself when I stood up and blattered out a prophetic
word. Did you hear what I just said?
No person calling themselves governed by the spirit of God
has the right to say, I couldn't help myself. The Lord just overcame
me and I had to stand up and go. Thus saith the Lord, whatever
came out of their mouth, whatever that was that moved them, it
was not the spirit of God. That was revelationary, wasn't
it? Whatever moved them was not the spirit of God. The spirit
of God never functions in the life of the Christian in such
an overwhelmingly compelling way as to throw them into states
of embarrassment. The spirit of God never functions
to throw the Christian in a state of embarrassment where they are
left to say, I don't know what happened. And thus, as it were
a tribute to the spirit of God, the chaos that took place in
the moment that they either spoke a word or they went about shaking
or they went about falling down or went about doing whatever
they did, which disrupted the service for the moment. You can
never blame it on the spirit of God. The text is here. The
spirit. Of the prophet. Is subject to
the prophets. Yes, it is. God gives gifts to
his people and he expects his people to have control over those
gifts. You guys got that? So very important
for you to see. Now watch this. For God is not
the author of what? But of what? As in how many of
his churches? Oh. So when you go into a church
that is demonstrating or manifesting chaos, we might well ask the
question, is this God's church? Do you see it? Very important
for you to know that God is not the author of confusion. And
so as I said before, developing this, it's important to know
that that's that childlike spirit that is not disciplined. In fact,
this is what Paul said just for you to grasp this. I want you
to grasp this. It's very important for you to
grasp. Over in verse 20, look at verse 20. Brethren, be not
what? Do you see it? Brethren, be not
what? understanding how be it in malice
be children but in understanding be what that's right and so you
see what Paul is saying do not act like undisciplined children
that have no sense of control nor respect for order or structure
or purpose this is how children act children act this way verse
23 If therefore the whole church become together into one place,
all speak with tongues and there come in those that are unlearned
unbelievers, will they not say that you are what? You got it. So now you're going to be, it's
going to result in the very opposite of what prophetic teaching ought
to accomplish. Prophetic teaching ought to always
bring revelation and clarity, not confusion and incredulity. It should not result in people
saying, this is crazy. Okay, go with me in your Bible
now to Titus chapter two. Show you something else, couple
more things, Titus two. I got three or four verses I
want you to see with regards to this. Then we're gonna go
back and look at the instruction, the command, the imperative to
withdraw oneself from such person. We wanna see what that act implies
for the persons that are disposed to the individual who just does
not wanna behave himself. So Titus is after Timothy in
Titus chapter two. Notice what it says. Let me see how I might do this.
I'm gonna read verse one and then I'll go down to verse nine
and 10 of Titus chapter two, then verse 13 and 15. Here's
what the apostle Paul says. The book of Titus, the book of
Timothy are corrective epistles for these very problems. Verse
one of chapter two, but speak thou the things which become
what? Sound doctrine. In other words,
if you're going to be a communicator on any level, Sunday school teacher,
Bible teacher, leadership in the church where you are purporting
to have the gift of the word of God, you must be sound in
your speech. The word sound there can connote
comprehensiveness that's further on down in our outline. But what
it really connotes, listen to this, is hell. It's a Greek term
that has its derivative in a biological term that means to be healthy,
to be healthy. Now to be healthy in one's mind,
one must have truth in his mind to be healthy. Because out of
the abundance of the heart that the what? Mouth speak. So if
my heart is filled with junk, if it's filled with a hodgepodge
of flawed notions and flawed ideas and concepts that are rooted
in a secular, chaotic, conflicting system that has no cohesiveness
to it. It's going to come out in my
words and it's going to come out in my life. This is where you
got to be careful of this pseudo religious group who will use
all kinds of biblical phraseology that makes no sense either. When
you hear chaotic speech coming from a person that you can't
reconcile with the Bible, understand that it's not sound speech. Sound
speech is always and consistently correlative to the scriptures.
It will sound like the scriptures. It will be as clear as the scriptures.
It will affirm the scriptures. It will have no sense of mystery
or gnosticism to it, or some sense of assaulting your reason. There's a lot of that goes on
in religious circles today too, assaulting your reason. And you
go, well now, right now there are three Bible verses that are
coming to my mind that are militating against what this person just
said. Right. And now, you know, if that person
is led by the spirit of God, the spirit of God is never going
to teach somebody one thing that stands diametrically opposed
to other things in the scriptures. In theology class, we learned
this is called the unity of biblical truth. We call it the analogy
of scripture. Scripture never watches contradict
scripture. The Holy Ghost never sets a command
or imperative or a prophecy or word of knowledge or word of
wisdom in the mouth of his servant that contradicts another portion
of scripture. To do that is to be self-defeating. If I tear
down what I'm building up, I make myself a transgressor, right? And the scriptures are very clear. Jesus said in John chapter 10,
the scriptures are one. They cannot be broken. So when
you're listening to someone speak, You have to ask yourself, can
I even discern or detect when they are using sound speech,
healthy speech, speech that edifies. Look at it again over in verse
eight. Here it is. Do you see it? Sound speech that
cannot be what? Do you see that? You can condemn
something when you can demonstrate by the preponderance of biblical
texts that the thing that they are purporting to be true stands
in opposition to the whole tenor of scripture. That thing is condemned.
It's condemned when it stands in opposition to the whole tenor
of scripture. So let let us use sound speech
that cannot be condemned, that he that is of the contrary part
may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say. And in this context
is really just talking about an orderly mind with orderly
truth that leads to an orderly conversation that allows you
to be persuasive in the lives of men women now watch this this
is verses 9 through 11 the Apostle Paul is speaking into the life
of the church of the Cretans and Here's what he says exert
exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters To please
them well and all things not answering again. Do you see that?
Now, you know if the Christian folks was adhering to this principle,
you would never hear gossip on your job You get that If Christian
folks were adhering to this principle, you wouldn't hear people complaining
in their cubicles about their superiors, would they? See here,
what this text corresponds to is the boss that's over you.
respecting your boss, understanding that that individual is given
to you for the purpose of your advancement and your success
in that company or business that you are engaged in, for which
you signed a contract, which you said now you're on the team.
But now you're not liking your boss because you think you're
wiser than your boss. And now you're going to violate
another rule. You're going to get over with your partners and gossip about
your boss. Oh, I'm telling the truth tonight,
man, I'm telling some truth tonight. Go ahead on with your bad self
just now watch this. Exhort servants to be obedient
to their own masters, please them well in all things, answering
not again, not purloining. Just if you went to public school,
the word purloining means being covetous enough to want to steal.
Purloining is to be a thief. I want to talk about this here
in a little bit, because it's important for you to know that the Church
of Jesus Christ, especially America and Europe and probably all around
the world, because they've a massive deterioration in leadership,
has a notorious reputation for being ungodly. The church of
Jesus Christ around the world, because of a lack of biblical
leadership, invasive, comprehensive leadership that is both didactic
in terms of his teaching and his modeling, we have a notorious
reputation for being ungodly. The church of Jesus Christ is
viewed as ungodly. Are you guys hearing me? The
church of Jesus Christ. When you use the word Christian,
no one any longer believes the word Christian and virtue mean
the same thing. It doesn't mean anything to people
today. It just means nothing. It just means some religious
folks who put on the fig leaves and they still live like hell
like everybody else. Live the low life of unbiblical
principles like everybody else. Listen to what he says. Don't
be stealing, but showing all good fidelity That they may adorn
the doctrine of god our savior in all things. Do you guys see
that? Adorning the doctrine of god in all things meaning means
that you and I live Out the gospel in a way that honors christ because
he has saved us with so great a salvation That nothing less
than absolute devotion to christ in all things is worthy of him
who loved us and gave himself for us That's transformational,
isn't it? But you see how such a low plane,
the average Christian lives on because the word of God has not
gone deep down into the heart or the birds of the air have
snatched the seed. I'm telling the truth. Verse 11, for the
grace of God that brings salvation has appeared unto all men. Here
it is. Now watch. His grace is a teacher, isn't
it? For the grace of God that has appeared unto all men bringing
salvation. have appeared to all men, verse 12, teaching us, here's
what grace teaches us, that denying ungodliness, that's one category,
and worldly lust, that's two categories, this is the negative
principles, two things that we deny, ungodliness and worldly
lust, we're dead in the water already by those two. Here's
the second one, here's the things that we should affirm, but we
should live soberly, dead in the water, aren't we? Righteously,
dead in the water, and godly in this present world, dead in
the water, You see, you see, ladies and gentlemen, how damning
a mere profession of faith has become for the Christian church,
dead in the water, dead in the water. So go with me now in your
Bible to Jeremiah, chapter three. As you are headed there, I'm
thinking about our young people. And so in my mind, in my heart,
this is what I want to say to our young people. And if you
want to, you can take this tape and give it to your young people.
Maybe pray to God would give them grace to listen to it. You
know, our young people can't listen, but for 15 minutes on
an average today, it's a real, really a sad thing. But here's
what I want to say to, to the young people, to young people,
15, 16, 17 years old, 18 years old, 19, 20 on the brink of entering
into this dark world. You who are young, God has given
you a gift. And the gift that God has given
you who are young is the gift of getting it right now. You who are young, God has given
you the gift of youth. the gift of getting it right
now, the gift of laying a proper foundation now, the gift of building
upon biblical truths now, the gift of acquiring principles
of conduct that are virtuous and fruitful and productive now.
He has given you time to to build your house and every house is
built on wisdom, the house of your character, the house of
your personhood, the house of your goals and objectives, the
house of your educational acumen, whatever it is, God has gifted
you young people with youth. You can do it now if you resolve
to start right now and 10 years from now, you will be thankful
to have started now versus wait until 10 years from now. That's
the gift of being young. The gift of being young. So what
gift do I have? You have the gift of being young
where you can start now. Start right now doing the right
thing. I just think about it because I remember when God saved
me at 18 years old and how the Proverbs, the book of Proverbs
revolutionized my thinking. The book of Proverbs, for some
reason, the spirit of God made the book of Proverbs my literary
father, my pedagogue. The book of Proverbs became for
me the secret witness and testimony and paraclete of the Holy Ghost
to come alongside of me who never was instructed in good things.
I had older cats teaching me how to be slick. But what the
Proverbs did was teach me how to act right. It gave me solutions. It directed me like the book
says in the book of Isaiah, no longer will your teachers be
in the corner, but you will hear a voice behind you speaking in
your ears saying, go this way and go that way and do this and
that. And I experienced that in my youth. I experienced the
word of the Lord entering in and delivering me from a lot
of bad decisions that I was inclined to engage myself in from my youth. It delivered me. And so for you,
young man, Ask God to give you a hunger to read the Proverbs
and make those phrases which say my son Receive instructions
and Leah and God will bless you abundantly That's what I wanted
to say Jeremiah chapter 4 God is appealing to Israel on the
same level that the Apostle Paul is appealing to the church at
Thessalonica and Israel has thought once again just like we do in
our present day and That you can be called by God's name and
live like whatever you want to live and erect idols and uh going
about your business And there won't be any consequences of
it. But god says in chapter 4 verse 1 these words. Are you there?
If you will return Oh israel said the lord Return unto me
And if you will put away your abominations out of your sight,
then you shall never be moved What a word Do you see that phrase? If you return to me, you will
never be moved. Now, obviously, if you know anything
about your Bibles, what God was saying to Israel, which has a
greater principle, is this. I have given you the promised
land. I have given you the land of Palestine. That's your home. I am the Lord of that land. You
are renting that land. That's what Leviticus teaches.
That's chapter 25. God owns the land, not Israel. God owns the
land, not Israel. And God told Israel, so long
as you honor the marital covenant, that old covenant, and be my
wife alone and not worship idols and sleep with other men, you
will never be moved. You will never be moved. I will
put up with a lot of stuff, but I will not put up with idolatry.
You guys got that? That's verse one and two of the
opening of the book. But as we move further down the
text, here's what we find over in verse 18, but your ways and your doings
have procured these things unto you. This is your wickedness
because it is bitter and because it reaches to your heart. My
bowels, my bowels, I am pained at my very heart. My heart makes
a noise in me. I cannot hold my peace because
you have heard on my soul, the sound of the trumpet and the
alarm of war. Who's speaking, Jeremiah? He's
bent over because he's been appealing for four and a half chapters
to Israel to turn back to the truth of the living God. But
Israel is so steeped in its sin. It's so ingrained in our heart
that what Jeremiah now hears is the sound of the trumpet of
the enemy and the horsemen on their way from the north coming
against God's people. And he's burdened with this judgment
that he feels is not being averted because the people are not turning.
Every day they continue in their wickedness as if they're not
hearing the prophet and the sound of the trumpet is becoming louder
and louder and louder to Jeremiah as the horsemen of Babylon are
drawing closer and closer to Palestine. Are you guys hearing
what I'm saying? Now watch this. Destruction upon destruction
is cried for the whole land is spoiled. Suddenly are my tents
spoiled and my curtains in a moment. He's painting the picture. How
long shall I see the standard and hear the sound of the trumpet?
What standard? The flags of the Babylonians
that are marching towards Israel. You see, every army had standards.
Every army had banners. Every army had signs. They let
you know they were on their way. Every army blew their trumpets.
They let you know you can capitulate and bow and submit to me now
or we'll go to war with you. That's how armies used to do
it. You're sending ambassador of peace, let you know we're
coming. And Jeremiah says, I'm hearing them getting louder and
louder. Now here's what God's assessment
of his people is. Watch this. For my people is
what? Now what's the antithesis of
foolish? Wise. My people are not wise. They have not known who. Now,
isn't that a paradox? My people don't know me. Isn't that wild? My people not
only don't know me, they have not known me. You can see how
Jesus carries this over into Matthew 7 when he says in that
day, when they shall say, Lord, Lord, I will say, I never knew
you depart from me, you workers of iniquity, which makes the
Lord of this text, the Lord of Matthew seven. He's the same
Lord. Notice what it goes on to say.
There are saltish children. That means that they are hardened
in their heart and they have no understanding. They are wise
to do evil, but to do good, they have no knowledge. Man, is that
a bad situation? They are wise to do evil, but
to do good, they have no knowledge. Now, ladies and gentlemen, just
to extend a certain perspective on this, again, on a paternal
level, what predicament we are in, aren't we parents? When we
raise our children ostensibly under biblical truth, telling
them what God's word says and training them in a consistent
fashion, bringing them to church, sitting them under sound theology,
under sound doctrine, under sound teaching. And then one day, as
we just objectively stand back and look at how they behave,
it's as if none of that ever penetrated one time. They don't know how to do one
good thing. All they know how to do is evil.
See, I know some parents know what I'm talking about. It's
a remarkable phenomenon, isn't it? You go, wow, wow. And see, for the parent, they
are lamb blasted now because Their children are such a reflection
of themselves and such an endearment to the heart that biblical truth
now takes on a whole nother level. See, we pretend that we believe
that human beings are sinful and depraved, but what God has
to do is bring it up close to you. And often in order for that
to happen, he has to make it manifest in your children. Then
you look and then you go for a certainty the word of the Lord
is right. The heart of man is deceitful
and desperately wicked above everything. No one can know it
but God. Am I making some sense? And it
breaks your heart. Well, God's heart is broken here.
He's screaming through the prophets saying, none of my people know
me. None of my rulers know me. The Kings don't know me. The
priests don't know me. The prophets don't know me. And
I've been preaching to them since I brought them out of the womb
of Egypt. giving them profit after profit after profit and
good king after good king and good priest after good priest
laying down my laws and my precepts and my worship and these folks
act like they never heard the gospel that's god talking that's
god talking man the lord's moving tonight isn't he look at verse
23 here's what's going to affirm what we mean by our first proposition
chaos will produce more chaos Verse 23, I beheld the earth
and the earth that Jeremiah is talking about is that limited
region that constituted national Israel's home and territory,
Palestine. Okay. I beheld the earth, but
he's carrying the metaphor from the Genesis account. I beheld
the earth and low. It was without form. And what,
you know what that phrase connotes chaos. Chaos. I beheld the earth, and lo, it
was without form and void. Chaos. And the heavens, and they
had no what? Light. That means this was before
the sun, before the moon, and before the stars. You know this
took place on the third and fourth days of creation, where God said,
let there be light, let there be the sun by day and the moon
by night and the lesser stars by night in order to order the
seasons. You need the moon, you need the
sun, you need the stars to govern our cycle of days and nights
and seasons. and they operate within the framework
of our solar system. You guys know that, right? This
is all part of what we call order in the ecological structure,
in the cosmological structure of our universe. Without it,
this world couldn't function. So what Jeremiah is saying is,
we have no solar system regulating the planetary cycle. By which
we have our lives and we have our seasons and we have our rains
and we have our vegetation and we have our fruitfulness. No
sun, no moon, no stars. They were time keepers. They
were for seasons and for years and months. Were they not trying
to help you guys understand something? There's no way for our universe
to function if we remove the sun, moon and stars. And yet
here, the analogy is these things are gone, which means we are
in a state of flux and chaos. Now watch the language. I beheld
the mountains, and lo, they trembled. They better. And all the hills
moved lightly. And I beheld, and lo, there was
what? No man. And watch this. And all
the birds of the heaven were gone. They fled. And I beheld,
and lo, the fruitful place, well, it's a wilderness now. And all
the cities thereof are broken down at the presence of the Lord
and by his fierce anger. For thus hath the Lord said,
the whole land shall be desolate. Do you see it? The whole land
will be desolate, yet I will not make a full end. So here's
what Jeremiah is picturing. So we can go back to our text.
He's picturing Babylon coming in like a swarm of locust, devouring
Israel and then leaving. And in the aftermath of the depart
of these locusts is nothing but desolation. And it's so bad,
no human beings can live there. You guys got that? That's the
picture. Now, the pathetic thing about it, go with me back to
our text now so we can work through this a little bit more. The pathetic
thing about it is God had given Israel the warning and they didn't
heed it. It's one thing for the judgment
to come upon you unawares. It's another thing for you to
be sitting and hearing the teaching and then it come upon you all
of a sudden and overtake you And like I said, the law of reciprocity
is going to do what it's going to do. And this is what Israel
experienced, and this is why Paul is warning in verse six.
Now, we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus
Christ, that you withdraw yourselves, withdraw yourselves. That phrase,
as you have in your outline, is the Greek term. And I'll share
with you the the the English equivalent, a tactos,
a tactos. A is what we call a negative
prefix, not something. And what this word tactos means
is orderly or structured. And so obviously
what's in view here is not orderly or not structured. The word tactos
we have in our English It's the word tactful, tactful, or it's
an army term, a military term for tactician. In early grammar,
the term tactician had to do with military arrangement of
structures in preparation to fight one's foes, ranks and orders
in military. ranks in order in military, ranks
in positions of military weapons. You would position the weapons,
watch this, tactfully at the particular place in which you
are going to assault your enemies. That's where the word had its
origins. In our life we use the term tacky
when somebody is, in our opinion, less than structured, less than
decent, less than already orderly. We go. He's tacky. She's tacky.
Am I telling the truth? That's just your your sort of
a general vernacular. And yet it's a proper term. And
really what it means is they don't carry themselves in an
orderly fashion. They are tacky. They don't have
structure. They're not formal. Why is Paul
being so forceful with this. Now, we command you, brethren,
in the name of the Lord Jesus, that you withdraw yourselves
from every brother that walketh disorderly and not after the
traditions of men. Well, first of all, we said because
chaos will produce more what? And secondly, we said that disorder
is contrary to the character of God. So chaos will produce
more chaos and disorder is contrary to the character of God. So these
people who are in this this tactless state are what is called unruly. Unruly. That's the word unruly. And you
see it in your outline as well. Unruly. First Thessalonians chapter
five, go back a few pages. First Thessalonians chapter five,
you'll see it there. So let me read verse 14. Now
we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are what? That's our
word. Unruly. Comfort the feeble minded,
support the weak and be patient towards all. So in First Thessalonians
five, Paul was already beginning to deal with this kind of mindset. We're going to unpack this for
tonight. This is where we'll stop. We'll move on a little
further. Paul says, do what to the unruly person? Warn them. Isn't that what he said? For
the unruly person, he must be warned, warned. You know what that means? You
and I don't have the liberty to simply let them go. You know, one of the demerits
in our character as human beings, especially today in this entertainment
age in which we live, we love to watch people act a fool. We
pay good money to have somebody clown. Am I telling the truth?
We will pay people to be unruly. We will pay people if they can
entertain us with their unruliness. There is a whole business out
there looking for people who will disrupt society, walk around
butt naked or something, you know, just just chaotic things.
Do something that's out of the ordinary, threatening and challenging
all structural and orderly and decent things. And you know what
we do as a society, because we're so depraved, we don't understand
the fear. We laugh at it. See what I'm
getting at? We laugh at it. That's an unruly
person. Now, what God says is in the
world, they can get away with it, not in the church. In the
church, they can't get away with being unruly. Now, you know what
the word unruly means? It means you are not subject
to authority. You will not submit yourself
to government. You guys know anybody like that?
There are a lot of professing Christians like that. They keep
just enough distance. from the church to be able to
mingle and co-mingle, but at the same time, be critical and
judgmental, but also at the same time, not submissive and productive
in the body. There are people who know how
to come in the mist. This is any social context and
be sort of a roaming maverick doing what they do. And initially
when they come in, they are interesting persons. Generally, the unruly
person has a bag full of tricks. I want to help you with this.
Now, the unruly person has a bag full of tricks. They are a character
and they can be initially entertaining. In fact, the way Paul actually
is developing this, I'll jump the gun. is that Paul is under
the assumption that the persons that are roaming about, meandering
about the church at Thessalonica are the ones who are the busybodies
going around twisting doctrine and asserting that Christ has
already come. These are the people who don't
have a structured life, who spend all their days getting into,
prying into people's businesses, even in the name of theology.
Nor feel people like that even in the name of theology when
they call you they got a word from the Lord, but then They go into
some area in some territory that they shouldn't because they don't
have anything to do And in fact, it's an interesting way that
in the Greek. I'm not gonna bore you with this that the phraseology
is used in Second Thessalonians chapter 3 verse 11 for we hear
that See the news that come back to Paul, for we hear that there
are some which walk among you disorderly. See that phrase disorderly?
That's our word. Watch this. Working not at all. See it? So first, you see what
Paul does? Paul associates a disorderly
person with a person who doesn't work. He says the vacuum of not
having the principle of industry and hard work ethic and a daily
job to go to on any level will be manifested by a disorderly,
dysfunctional, chaotic life. Do you guys see that? This is
why we are so quick, aren't we parents, to keep our children
busy doing things because we know that idleness is the devil's
what? And that's not a Bible verse.
Just want to let you know. Just in case you get the where's
that in the Bible is not in the Bible, not in the Bible. But we understand the depravity
of the mind is that curiosity will wreak that kind of investigation
into areas in which it's not profitable, destructive, wasting
time if we don't give them things to do. Right. You have to give
them things to do. You have to structure that. We
could be better at that in our nation. We could. We are. We
are way too sloppy on the raising of our children today. And our
children are not equipped by the time they're 16 or 17 to
handle the world. The parents haven't been as disciplined
as they should be. And if the children get there,
that means that God has to get ahold of them to change their
life. But here's what he says. They are disorderly working,
not at all, but are busy bodies. Do you see that phrase busy body?
So the word busy body, is actually a Greek equivalent to the word
disorderly in what is called the antithesis. It's the antithesis
of, I'm sorry, not disorderly, but working not at all. You see
the phrase in verse 11, that one clause working not at all.
For we hear that some of you which walk, we hear that there
are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all,
but they are working their bodies. That's the literal syntactical
phraseology there. They're not working with their
hands. They're working with their bodies. They're not working productively
to produce income remuneration for for a hard work done in order
for them to eat themselves. They are using their bodies to
go about and actually in invading other people's space. You know,
people like that, they are professionals, professionals at siphoning off
of other people. Professionals as siphon off other
people. So you have to be extremely careful
to know that this is a problematic issue in the world. And it's
a problematic issue in the church. And what is Paul getting at when
he deals with this? Now, we hear that there are some
which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busy
bodies. Here, I'm sensitive to the reality
that we live right now presently in a time when Income is hard
to come by and hard work is hard to come by If you are a person
who believes in the nobility of working And you feel shame
for not working. That's a good thing That's a
good thing If you're the person who believes in the nobility
of working that God created you out of the dust of the ground
breathe into your nostrils the breath of life and you became
a living soul and God gave you to work and to till the ground,
to keep it, to replenish it, to bear the fruit of it, to enjoy
the labors of it, albeit with thorns and thistles, then that
shame and sense of lack of fulfillment of your calling is a good thing.
If you are just as comfortable as all get up, loafing about,
broke, begging all the time, you are mentally dysfunctional. It's true. It's true. You are
mentally dysfunctional. God didn't make you as a manager.
And I kind of, you know, I think this through and I worry about
our society. I do. I worry about our society,
and particularly I worry about our men. Sometimes I think the
government puts something in the water. See, but I'm not a
nut like that. I know better. I know better than that. I also,
see, if you start going too far in the extreme of the government
doing everything, what you do is you destroy human responsibility. And once you destroy human responsibility,
then there's no gold to prick an individual to take responsibility
for his own actions. I drunk the same water you drunk.
What happened to me? And some of my other brothers
drunk the same water too. What happened to them? Am I making
some sense? Some of us drunk the same water and we went to
work at 18 years old, 19, 20 years old. And then my sisters
drunk the same water we drunk. And our sisters have a track
record right now of hardworking. Am I making some sense? So why
can the sisters drink the water and it not make them lazy and
indolent, but the brothers can drink the water and it make them
lazy and in less, of course, some of us who have a propensity
towards conspiracy theories might think that within the chemical
makeup of the water, that it has propensity to only go towards
the male species and wipe out any drive and ambition for work
and slow him down. so that the females can be on
the top and the males can be on the bottom. After all, survival
of the species suggests in the feminist agenda that we got to
wipe out one third of the men. And what a way to do it, but
turn them into sloppy, busy bodies not able to work. You can work
with that all you want to, but it has an element of truth in
it. It is no accident that we are in the state that we are
in where our women are excelling leaps and bounds is not an accident.
It is part of the reciprocity principle. In this part, I'm
being a little facetious because I'm getting ready to open the
floor for questions and we'll come back next week. Personally, I really
do worry. I worry enormously about the
next generation of men. I worry enormously because I
know that if your mind is not prepared to go through the discipline
of being stretched so that it can actually receive the kind
of data and information necessary to learn a skill set, then you're
not going to be capable of doing anything. If a young person isn't
willing to sit and be taught a trade or skill of labor to
take care of himself, he won't be able to take care of a family.
And then it will be truly a matriarchal culture. And I don't care how
much that makes you feel good, ladies. A matriarchal culture
is no good for no one. Not a matriarchal culture. A
matriarchal constituency, yes. Not a matriarchal culture. A
matriarchal complementarian constituency, yes. We need our mothers. We
need our women, without a doubt. But we don't need a matriarchal
culture. A matriarchal culture is a culture that is completely
in militant opposition to the truth of the living God. It will
destroy our world. It will destroy our world. God
did not design it for you guys to be the head. He didn't design
it that way. It will destroy our world. We
will destroy the beauty of the distinction between male and
female. It will do what we see it doing in our culture today.
If you advocate that, you are advocating a destruction of the
glory of God in mankind. I'm going to open the floor right
now for questions. If anybody wants to talk about it, let's
talk about it. We got 10 minutes before we close in prayer. Who
wants to talk about it? Anybody? And you can, if you guys got
questions on any level, open the floor. We can talk about
it and pray about it. That's what we do here. Hands up. We've got one over
here. Okay. This is a good time. There's
Bible study. Let's talk about it. Good evening. I read an article in Time Magazine
probably about a year ago, and it had a bunch of boys on the
cover. It was talking about them being emasculated. I'm raising boys, and as a single
mom, I hear all the time a woman can't raise no man. That very
well may be true, but I'm going to do the best that I can. But
I try to raise my boys to take responsibility for their actions.
And I was sitting here laughing when you was talking about how
children tear up the house because I'm going, I'm experiencing that
very same thing. I feel like I'm going to pull
my hair out. But, um, my question is with, with boys being a single
mom, is it truly hopeless as far as me trying to raise them
to be men? You can, If we stay strict with
the term, I wanna help you with this. You cannot make your boys
into men. You cannot do it. That's not
your job. You cannot make them into men.
All you can be for them is the healthy side of emotional and
psychological relationship that men need to be able to respect
and view women properly. The role of mothers is to be
able to help their sons have a healthy respect for women,
to view them not as mere property, as existential things in order
to gratify their lust, but to respect them and understand the
inherent virtue in the difference between men and women. In terms
of your boys, having what is necessary for them to be men
with the kind of dignity and the kind of discipline and the
kind of, uh, commitment, the kind of perseverance that is
required. They need the modeling. They
need the modeling of male persons in their life of whom they can
be mentored. It, this is without a doubt the
case. This is late. Listen to me, ladies
and gentlemen, if you doubt me for one minute, it means that
you haven't paid attention to our institutional systems whatsoever. If you doubt me for 10 seconds,
you haven't paid any attention to the enormous institutional
systems in our country that has incarcerated our boys because
they don't have father figures in their life. You have completely
missed that we have built a whole industry on fatherless boys. who have acted out in so many
various ways because they didn't have that image of the father
there to reign them in and to discipline them and to check
them when they began to explore areas that people who didn't
care for them said you can explore. When a child does not have the
benefit of the man or the woman, Either of those deficits can
set the child up for a deviation from their God-given biological
calling. Where the child only has a father
and not a mother, the boy. That boy can grow up with an
extremely lopsided view of women. which can make him abusive, which
can make him a tyrant, which can make him careless and insensitive
to the woman. This is why God gave us the model
of the Genesis account. He made the male and female in
the image of God. He didn't make them male. He
didn't make them female. He made the male and female. Got that? He didn't make them
only male so that only males are sufficient. I do not believe
a homosexual man-man relationship can bring health to a child.
He didn't make them only female. I do not believe a male or female-female
lesbian relationship can bring health to a boy. I don't. I believe
that that child will be woefully deficit in his psychological
makeup because of a lack of male influence in his life. I believe
God. I just believe God. I don't even have a doubt about
it. I grew up in the hood. I grew up with all of these maladies
in my life. I grew up without my father there.
I understand the pull to the left and the right. I also understand
that without these male figures there operating in every aspect
of their calling, the predatorial spirit that creeps in on these
young boys before they get old enough to be able to make extremely
formative decisions and then turn them out so that all their
life they are confused. Confused because the male person
wasn't there at century to watch over the young men. It's so clear
to me. You understand? So what I would
always say to a sister who is in the same place you are as
my mother was, as many of my peers were, who, you know, just
didn't have dads around, those boys need to acquire mentors. This is why our boys have been
into comic books and Superman and all the different, you know,
sort of aesthetic heroes that are out there because they need
mentors. And actually this is where our
text is going to be going. If you will mark the text, you'll
notice that what Paul said in verse nine, he says, not because
we do not have power, but to make ourselves examples unto
you to follow us. And we've been talking about
this throughout the whole of the book of Thessalonica, how that
Paul commended himself as a model to the church of the Thessalonians
to follow him because he was a father figure, which means
that men are obligated once they sire children to be a model for
their sons. They are obligated to be a model
for their sons. And if the boys don't have a
male father figure in the home, they need to get one by proxy,
an uncle or somebody or some persons that are willing to be
exposed to them so that they can vicariously begin to develop
their character through that individual. Am I making some
sense? so they can vicariously... Because
see, teenagers don't have a formative identity. They pick and choose
identities every other week. That's what teenagers do. They
create idols that they follow after. This week, they're after
this cat. This week, that week, that. This
is why the music industry is such a scary thing for our children
because the image and the music and the sound carries with it
several complex components that draw them to them and then they
want to be like that. This is the thing that blows
you away. You're trying to be a good example to your kids and
now they're walking around looking like pit bulls. or Snoop Dogg
or any of these cats or any of the women you guys wanted. What
has happened? These people have been able to
invade their space and stand as a mentor before them of which
they now want to model. Do you understand that? Because
they have not found themselves yet. It takes time to find yourself
and live in your own skin and to understand your own identity.
And what a wonderful thing it is for men to be able to see
the image of God in himself. by 18 years old. So that he has
no deep desire to put on anyone else image, but his own. What a wonderful thing. You see
what I'm saying? What a wonderful thing for that boy to get 15,
16, 17 years and has such a vivid revelation of the glory of God
in Christ and have Christ The God man who manifested himself
in the flesh and walked among us and we beheld his glory to
begin to, to, as it were, formulate that young man's thinking and
say, I want to be like Christ. What a gift that would be. What
a gift that would be. What a gift that would be so.
The answer is yes and no. It's not impossible for you. But what I want you to understand
is you will have to be looking for providentially somebody to
be able to be there to help your boys in that male area specific
to them that you can't do. And I never recommend that a
woman be like a man. You want to see your children
get ready to go homosexual. Boys, let the women get too masculine. You want to see them run into
the lap of a man? You women get too masculine.
I know what I'm talking about. Next question.
Jesse Gistand
About Jesse Gistand
Jesse Gistand has been pastor of Grace Bible Church of Hayward for 17yrs. He is a conference speaker, lectures, and has a local radio ministry. He is dedicated to the gospel of God's Sovereign Grace, and the salvation of chosen sinners through the ministry of gospel preaching. "Christ is All." Their website may be viewed at http://www.grace-bible.com.
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