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Mikal Smith

Shaking of Heaven and Earth

Hebrews 12:26-27
Mikal Smith March, 15 2026 Video & Audio
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Okay. Hebrews chapter 12. Once again. Hebrews chapter 12. Tell you what, brothers, it's been a wonderful study here in Hebrews. At least for me, I don't speak for you guys. It has been for me. Matter of fact, the Lord has been showing me a few things through this study that he hadn't before. So he's given me a little more light on some things and thankful, always thankful for that. I just was talking with a sister this week that called me and we were discussing some verses and some scripture. And we were talking about that, how the Lord continues to teach us and open up things and how amazing it is that he even brought us out of what we were, you know, thinking back to what we used to believe and how we used to do things and how he's brought us into the truth. And we're grateful for that.

And he's gracious to do that. So I'm thankful that even at 53, the Lord still Still is teaching me things and I pray that he continues to give me a little more light on the on God's Word every time I get into the stand to preach I'm always Hesitant and always Full of trepidation to do it because you know, I'm saying this is what the Bible says That's what God says and I just pray that he gives me the truth to speak And that I don't say anything outside of what he would want me to speak Hebrews chapter 12 I won't go ahead once again and read down through the verses that we've been looking at for the last few weeks and Today, I want to deal with verses 26 and 27 If the Lord will be pleased to let us get through that but Hebrews chapter 12 I starting in verse, let's see, where did we start reading last time? Verse 18, sorry.

For ye are not come unto the mouth that might be touched and that might be burned with fire, nor unto blackness and darkness and tempest, and the sound of a trumpet and the voice of words, which voice they that heard entreating that the word should not be spoken to them anymore, for they could not endure that which was commanded. And if so much as a beast touched the mountain, it shall be stoned or thrust through with the dark. And so terrible was the sight that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake.

But here's the good news, brethren, but ye are come, present tense, but ye are come unto Mount Zion and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. and to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaketh better things than that of Abel. See that ye refuse not him that speaketh, for if they escape not, who refuses him that spake on earth, Much more shall not we escape if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven. Whose voice then shook the earth, but now he hath promised, saying, yet once more, I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. And this word, yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Wherefore, we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have," and I want you to pay close attention. He says, wherefore we receiving. That's in a present perfect. It's coming down now and will continue to be. Wherefore, we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear for our God is a consuming fire. All right, brethren.

We look last week at verses 24 and 25, specifically 25 about him who speaketh from heaven. And we've seen that that speaking of Jesus Christ, he's the one who speaks from heaven. And we took a little tour through several verses in the scriptures showing that What Christ says is of utmost importance and that in Christ has been committed all the decree and the providential outbringing or the manifestating of all of God's decree has been given into the hands of Jesus Christ to fulfill. And Christ is the fulfillment of all things that God has declared. He has fulfilled all things.

And so as it pertains to the Old Covenant, as I've mentioned in the last few meetings, the book of Hebrews is being written to a group of Hebrews that have yet to experience this final judgment that is coming, that has been prophesied in the Old Testament that Jesus warned about in the New Testament.

And now even more so, through Peter, through Paul, through John in their books on the coming of this judgment, they have a covenant that has been ingrained in their mind for thousands of years that is in a transitional period. They are moving out of this old covenant and have been brought in or bringing in, coming down of the new covenant. Okay. And so this coming down of the new covenant during this transitional period, men are drawn.

What about all this that my family taught me growing up? Well, what about this now that I have this inner drawing of the Holy Spirit is telling me what these guys are saying is the truth. Do I trust in tradition or do I trust in What my heart feels. Do I trust in what I think I knew? Or do I trust in what I've been given to know? OK, and see, there's this pull. Back into the Old Covenant, just pull back into the Old Covenant.

Paul dealt with this with the Galatians, with other with some of the other churches, and here he's saying the same thing. He's warning them, listen. The Old Covenant is about to be destroyed. It's about to be ended finally. Judgment is coming. And as we'll see here, heaven and earth is about to pass away.

And a new heaven and a new earth is coming down out of heaven. And this new heaven and this new earth is this new kingdom that the old covenant, that the old types and foreshadows all were pointing to, and it is a kingdom and a covenant that is rooted in and centered around the Lord Jesus Christ. it is being fulfilled by the Lord Jesus Christ. And all the old is gonna be ended and fulfilled and brought to its peak and its end in Christ Jesus. And the new covenant is gonna be manifested to everybody and gonna be shown and in the manifesting of that, the full manifestation of that, we're gonna find that Christ has been the center of all of this all along, from the beginning to the end.

That's why he says, I am the alpha and the omega. I am the beginning and the ending. I am the one that all of this time period is about. Time has been given to you so that you might be brought into relationship with me as God the Father has sent me, I have come to make him known to you.

And so Christ, from beginning to the ending, has been the one who is consummating all the things that God has declared for those who He has created in time to reveal Himself so that the glory might be unto Him. All things are of Him and through Him and to Him. He has created all things for His glory. He has made everything after the counsel of His own will so that they might be to the glory of His name. So everything that we see and everything that we have experienced and everything that we will ever experience has been for and to the glory of Jesus Christ. That's why he is the Alpha and that's why he is the Omega. That's why everything is resting upon him because God has chosen to manifest himself in flesh in Christ Jesus and reveal himself to a creation that he made for the purpose of showing forth his glory.

And he has done that in meticulous way. And he did that in showing, and how can we know, how can we know the manifest glory of God if we don't even know our own inability? How could we know the manifest holiness of this God if God had not made man natural of the earth, earthy, had not made man already before sin ever came into the world by Adam, had already made man lower than himself, made man susceptible to sin, susceptible to evil.

He is not righteous. He is not holy. He is not perfect. He cannot attain to the standard of God's holiness. And he was made that way, subjected to vanity, for a purpose so that God through His Spirit might give that man who could never do, could never experience this righteous relationship between God and sinful man. We could never have experienced that had God not before the foundation of the world purposed to redeem a people back to Himself and in redeeming that people back to themselves, bring them into a relationship, a covenantal relationship.

See, in Adam, all died. In Adam, all of us are dead in trespasses and sin. In Adam, all of us were lost. If we are Christ's people, we were lost in Adam. But we belong to God before we belong to Adam. We belong to God in the times before time because thine they were and then he gave them to Christ as he manifested himself in Christ Jesus to be the covenantal head of this people, to be the spiritual head of his people. So we are a spiritual lineage, a spiritual children, a spiritual heritage. There's lots of ways the Bible portrays us and how we are a spiritual wife, a spiritual body, a spiritual temple, spiritual tabernacle. The Bible uses all of these metaphors to describe our relationship with God in this spiritual way.

And that was set forth before the foundation of the world. And God covenanted to redeem those people, to save those people out of that death, out of sin, out of rebellion, to keep them from wrath. The Bible says that we were not appointed unto wrath. So if we weren't appointed unto wrath, then that means that God had always appointed us for redemption. God had always appointed us for salvation. that God had never had wrath upon us because he didn't appoint us to wrath. He appointed us for glory, for salvation. Of course, we read that all through the Bible, especially whenever we go into Romans, we see that God had purpose to choose one lump unto glory and one lump unto destruction, right?

So God is in this intermediate time is beginning to bring down or is to bringing down this new covenant, exposing this new covenant, and this new covenant, while it's already been operating, it operated from Adam all the way to the day of Jesus ascended, it had been operating, but it had not been made manifest.

And it isn't made manifest, and as we see in Hebrews, the Bible says, that a covenant doesn't make itself manifest or go into full effect until when? When does the covenant go into effect? With the death of the testator. So when did the new covenant become manifest in its fullness? With the death of Christ Jesus. Now that doesn't mean that the new covenant hadn't already been working.

Okay. Sometimes whenever you have a covenant, you know, there is a final covenant. Larry probably can attest to this. He's bought and sold properties and been, there's covenants that are made. And when that covenant is made, there's a lot of things that go on leading up to the finalization of that transaction. Once that transaction is finalized though, then everything has been made manifest, everything is done, everything is ended, and now whatever that covenant is or whatever that contract or whatever, now you're in the fullness of that covenant, right? You're in the fullness of that. But leading up to that, there has always been some workings of that covenant. There are certain things that can happen and can't happen. There are certain things that are being done. but not seen fully or not fully experienced.

Now that's just an earthly way of trying to describe something that's heavenly and more perfect than what we have here. But brethren, we know that this new covenant is an eternal covenant because the Bible, especially in Hebrews, tells us that this is an everlasting covenant. We also know that it is an everlasting covenant because the Bible also tells us that the gospel of this covenant is an everlasting gospel. So if it's an everlasting gospel, if it's an everlasting covenant, if it's an eternal redemption that Christ secured for us, then that tells me that that was already purposed. It was already planned.

It was already something before the foundation of the world. It was before time began. But when did this first covenant come in? First covenant came in when time began. Okay. It came in when time began. And so in our experience of the covenants, we experienced the first covenant first. That's why God used it. in the term of the first covenant. Although the new covenant is an everlasting covenant, the first covenant is the first one we experience because that's what we're under when we come into this world. When we come into this time world, we are under that first covenant, that covenant of do this and live. that covenant that is there to show us our sin. And brethren, listen, I'm telling you, that is the only reason that God gave us that command, those commands, that covenant is to bring forth, to show forth, to magnify our sin.

It never, ever, ever was intended to save us. It never was intended, or anybody, Not just us in the new covenant. It was never intended to save anybody in the old covenant. It was never intended to make anybody righteous. It was never intended to make anybody in right fellowship with God.

All those Old Testament saints who were true Israelites, who were true Jews, who were the spiritual seed of Christ in that old time covenant, when they were out wandering in the desert, whenever they were out in Canaan, wherever they were at, up until the time of Jesus, all those people who were the true children of God, were children of God, just like we are.

Born of the Spirit. A seed of Christ. But they did not know and understand and fully realized those things because while the covenant was operating, it had not been revealed and made manifest to them yet. Okay. So they were still under that and their fellowship with God while God gave them the temple sacrifices, while God gave them all the feasts and the festivals and all the things to remember him by, all those things as we learn in the New Testament which has the greater authority, right? The things of the Old Testament are concealed and whenever they are revealed in the New Testament to mean something than what you thought they meant, then we bow the knee to what God has revealed in his greater revelation. And so those things of the sacrifices and of the temple and the festivals and of the feast and all those things in the old covenant was given to point to the greater reality, which was the fulfillment of Christ Jesus and the relationship of us to God through Christ Jesus. So in that Old Testament, those people had relationship and fellowship with God through Christ Jesus, but God manifested to them through the types and foreshadows. And it seemed like, well, my fellowship requires me to be obedient to all these commands. But here's the thing, brethren, have you ever thought about this?

If they didn't bring the sacrifices, their sins weren't what? Their sins weren't covered. And what did the law command? If you do this, die. So if they didn't bring the commands, what did they do? They killed them, right? If someone refused to bring sacrifices for their sin, especially if their sin was made known, now sometimes God killed people just directly, but if their sins were made known and they didn't make sacrifice for that, then they were to be put to death.

You say, well, there you go, you know, your fellowship with God relationship with God is dependent upon your actions. Well, have you ever thought that those who were put to death for not making the sacrifices were actually not any of his? They could have been the Israel that was not of Israel. But all those who did bring those sacrifices, and I'm not saying that everyone who did bring sacrifices were his true children, but what I'm saying is, is God put it within their heart to follow that, right?

So that doesn't get anything, you know, it doesn't change anything is what I'm trying to say as far as the new covenant is concerned. The new covenant has been enacted or has been in operation from the foundation of the world. Their relationship and fellowship with God has always been through the mediator Jesus Christ.

But because of God's showing through types and foreshadows, and the time being enacted to show forth the inability to keep God's law, God set up a system like he did, which was never perfect. And it never was meant to make anybody perfect. So here we are at this place in Hebrews where Paul is warning these brethren, brethren, the time is coming that all of this is gonna be put to an end. And the revealing of the true Jerusalem, the true Israel, the true kingdom, the true Zion of God is gonna be revealed. And that covenant is coming down out of heaven. It is not a covenant that is of the earth and made with the earth. It is a covenant that God made, not with man. God never made a covenant with man. He made the covenant of himself. He covenanted himself to say, I will do this.

I will be their God and they will be my people. He said, I will do this for them. I will take out of them the heart of stone and put within them the heart of flesh. I will circumcise their heart. I will quicken them and make them alive. I will teach them. I will put this within their heart. I will keep them. I will not let them fall.

See, in the old covenant, under the old covenant, it was do this and live. And to the People of Israel at that time, they had to continue on in those things, continue on in those things, continue on in those things. And so there was a covenant to them. If you do this, then I will do this.

But see, the new covenant is totally different. God doesn't make a covenant with us. We are involved in that covenant. We are subjects of that covenant, but we are not Enacted or I don't know even the words how I need to say that we are not the ones who covenant back. It is a unilateral covenant God said I will do this and That's what he has done And so because this is a unilateral Covenant, this means this covenant is better than the old because it doesn't involve man with his inability to try to do something for God, to please God, to stay right with God, to do anything with God. It doesn't go that way. It all revolves around what Christ, the perfect testator, did for us. My obedience is not what's counted. Christ's obedience is what's counted as my obedience.

So Michael Smith, before God has kept all of God's righteous law. But Mike Smith has not actually did it. What Christ did in his righteous keeping of all of God's righteous law, God looks at and says, that is Michael Smith walking there. Michael Smith, who could have never even began to start down the road of keeping the righteous law, deserves the death that is required for not keeping the law.

But Christ stood in my place and he took my death, my penalty for all my sin, and yours if you're a child of grace. He took that penalty upon himself. And so that is the good news, brethren. That's the greatness of this covenant. And listen, because that covenant is a unilateral covenant, it cannot be shaken. It cannot be moved. It cannot be taken away. It cannot be nullified.

That's why it's, that's why it said, even though this was enacted and all the law was before even Moses, whenever Moses received the law, men was dying. The Bible said the wages of sin is death. Sin is the transgression of the law, but where there is no law, well, what about all those people that was dying before Moses received the law? That showed us that we were not living up to the standard, that showed us that God's law was intact. God's righteousness was intact and that men were unable to keep that law.

And even though the law came in, that did not nullify the new covenant, the everlasting covenant. The coming in of the law didn't nullify anything. Me coming to the understanding that I can't keep the law didn't nullify the covenant that God made with his people, to his people, in Christ Jesus.

Because it didn't require me to perform. It never requires me to perform. Back then, right now, or until the day I die, My relationship and fellowship and standing before God does not require my performance because the standing was secured and purchased and bought and before the foundation of the world, decreed to be only in the man, Jesus Christ. That's why it cannot be shaken.

It was already there in heaven to begin with. But now, as Paul is about to say, it is coming down out of heaven. It was hidden to our eyes and to our understanding and our experience, but now it is coming down. This new Jerusalem is coming down. This kingdom is coming down. This place where God is going to dwell is now no longer out there in the nowhere, but here in the now amongst his people. It is not going out there and coming down into a building made by hand, but now it's within every one of his children. And as they gather, they build up the house of God.

And that is where he has promised his presence. and He's promised His blessing. That's where He has promised that we would be fed and watered. That's where the river of life is going to be flowing down that we will drink from, where we will eat of the fruit of the tree continually, where we are the pillar and the ground of truth. Now, let's look at our verses here, brethren.

It says, verse 26, whose voice, speaking of Jesus Christ, whose voice then shook the earth, but now he hath promised, saying, yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. And this word yet once more signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain so if we look here we can already see that this voice that is about to be manifested at one time shook the earth but this time it's shaking more than just the earth it's shaken heaven and earth all through the old testament there was judgment that came upon The children of God. That came upon Israel. National Israel, ethnic Israel. The chosen people of God. There was judgments that came upon them. They went into captivity a few times, right? They experienced defeat in battles a few times, right? They experienced hardships. They experienced all kinds of things, right?

OK, so those judgments came, but the covenant remained. Whenever a judgment would come, God would promise that he would still keep this covenant if they continued to keep covenant with him. If you remember quite a while back, I preached a message on this, on how everything was given to Israel that was promised to them. Ethnic Israel. Israel of old. all the land, all the promises that he gave to Abraham that were physical was promised to them and was fulfilled.

It was given to them. God didn't owe them anything else. And that God promised he sent them into Babylon. He brought them out of captivity. And when he brought him out, he promised that he would continue to let them live in the land, but they had to continue to keep the covenant. What was the covenant that he told to Moses and to Joshua?

You will be my people and I will be your God. As long as that covenant is working, you will continue in this land. You will continue receiving the blessings. You will continue having the inheritance. I have to be your God. You have to be my people. but it never failed.

What happened? They went off into idolatry. And what did God do? He sent them into judgment. So there was a shaking of the earth, but there wasn't a shaking of the heaven and the earth. There was a shaking of the earth. Now brethren, there was some times in the Old Testament that there was shaking of heaven and the earth, and we'll get to that in just a second, but I want to point this out. There was a time when Israel was brought into, captivity, brought back, given a promise, taken back into captivity, brought out, given a promise.

But brethren, after that last time they went into captivity and God brought them out, there was no promise of any more future redemption. And whenever those people stood in front of Pilate, They did exactly what not only Jesus had prophesied that they would do, but what all of the Old Testament prophets had prophesied that they would do. They were gonna pierce his hands and feet. They were gonna crucify him. They were gonna not receive him. They were not gonna listen to him. They were not gonna receive what he had to bring to them. Nothing was gonna change their mind. Nothing was gonna cause them to be revived because God had purposed it from the foundation of the world.

He had already purposed that all those men of Jesus' time was going to fill up the measure of their fathers. That always refers to the sins. They were going to fill up the measure of iniquity of their fathers. Their fathers had already been doing it. They had already been stoning the prophets. They had already been killing the prophets. They had already been persecuting the people of God. But brethren, Jesus said that they were going to fill up to the full, they're gonna do and bring forth everything that God had purposed in the iniquity of those men, what their purpose was there.

Just like Pharaoh served the purpose of God. God raised Pharaoh up, made him born of an Egyptian woman, made him raised up in an Egyptian home that was a Pharaoh's home, made him sit on the throne as a Pharaoh. He raised him up for the sheer And the only reason that he raised him up was to show his power in him. Not show Pharaoh's power, show God's power. And to make God's name known in all the world. What did he do? He raised Pharaoh up, he hardened Pharaoh's heart so Pharaoh would do exactly what God wanted him to do. And he did so that God would show his hand crushing the mighty nation of Egypt. bringing down the great God Pharaoh.

Pharaohs were considered gods at that time. God brought him down. Destroyed everything. And here's this little fledgling band of slaves came out of Egypt unscathed. God opened up the sea and delivered them across on dry land. God brought them out and eventually brought them into a land that was not their own. Gave them houses and cities that they did not build. did all these things. And what was the purpose of Pharaoh? He had a purpose. He brought him up, began that purpose, ended his life when his purpose was done.

Same thing with Israel, brethren. God had raised up Israel for a purpose to show forth in this old covenant that we cannot keep the law of God. Raised up Israel as a nation, raised up Israel as an ethnic people, raised up all these things in this old covenant typology to show forth something that could never be done by us, and that is attain and perform righteousness. And so God, just like when Jesus told them, he said, your house is going to be left to you desolate.

The kingdom is being taken from you and given to them. And that's exactly what Jesus did. He came down and took their kingdom, which was a physical kingdom, a physical people, a physical city, a physical tabernacle, destroyed all three. And in doing so, a new heaven, a new earth with a new tabernacle came down.

That was us. now coming to us. God now coming and dwelling in us. Where before in the tabernacle there was a veil and it kept us out and God's presence could only be seen from afar. But now we have the presence of God in us. And as we gather together as his tabernacle, we have the promise that he is here with us now. And it cannot be shaken. It cannot be removed. Let's look at a few scriptures to see.

Number one, does anybody know verse 26? Do you know what scripture that that's quoting? Well, if you're like me, I got a little center reference thing that tells me. If you do a word search though, a word search of shaking heaven and earth, you'll find that this is a quote from Haggai. So if you would turn with me to Haggai, chapter two, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Mayhem. Tobacco. Zephaniah and Haggai, right? Haggai, chapter two.

Now we see here in Haggai, we see the judgment under the first covenant, but as we get down a little bit further, we see that God begins to speak of this last time, of this last days, of this ending of this covenant. Starting in verse one, and I'll read down, it says, in the seventh month, in the one and 20th day of the month, came the word of the Lord by the prophet Haggai saying, speak now to Zerubbabel, the son of Sheltel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua, the son of Josedek, the high priest, and to the residue of the people saying, I know I probably messed up those words, but bear with me.

Who is left among you that saw this house in her first glory? Now remember, brethren, this is when they came back out of captivity, right? This is the account of they'd come back out of the captivity. They had been in captivity in Babylon for 70 years. They came out of captivity. Whenever they came out of captivity, they came back to a tabernacle that had been destroyed, had been messed up. But more importantly than that, they came back to a tabernacle that there wasn't no presence of God there.

Now, pay close attention to some of the wording here. He says, who is left among you that saw this house in her first glory? Meaning of when God resided in this temple. Okay. And how do you see it now? Is it not in your eyes in comparison of it as nothing? See, God's presence not being in this tabernacle makes it worthless and void, right? Of no use.

Yet now be strong, O Zerubbabel, saith the Lord, and be strong, O Joshua, son of Josedek, the high priest, and be strong, all ye people of the Lord, saith the Lord, and work. For I am with you, saith the Lord of hosts. Who is the Lord of hosts? It's just side note, I didn't even think about talking about this, but who's the Lord of hosts? Jesus. Who is with them? Jesus, wait a minute, preacher, that's the Old Testament. Jesus didn't come on the scene in Bethlehem. Hello?

Jesus said before Abraham was, I am. God said, I will be your people and you will be, I will be your God and then you will be my people. He said, I will be with you. He told Moses, whenever you go, I will be with you. Who was with him in the cloud and in the pillar? Jesus. Verse five, according to the word that I covenanted with you when you came out of Egypt, so my spirit remaineth among you.

Fear ye not, for thus saith the Lord of hosts, yet once it is a little while and I will make the heavens and the earth and the sea and the dry land. I will shake the heavens and the earth and the sea and dry land. Notice he said yet once it is a little while So it had not yet happened, but it was gonna be a little while. We come to find out it was roughly about 500 years later or so, right? Don't check my math on that. I'm just kind of halfway guesstimating, but somewhere close to that. Check my math, find out for yourself, but it was somewhere close to that.

But look at verse seven. It says, and I will shake all nations, and pay close attention to this, And the desire of all nations shall come. Who is the desire of all nations? Jesus Christ. He said there's about to be a shaking of the heavens and earth. And it's at that time, that appointed time, yet a little while at that appointed time is when Jesus will come. And I will fill this house with glory, saith the Lord of hosts.

What house? The house that will be left after the shaking. Because he said he's going to shake heaven and earth and in hebrews we learn he's coming to shake heaven and earth Because everything that's shaken in heaven and earth is going to go away And what's going to remain that which cannot be shaken? That shall remain Which is what his house?

Because his house wasn't built with men's hands His house is a spiritual house which we'll see that here in just a little bit, but look, stay with me. He says, verse eight, the silver is mine and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of hosts. Look here, the glory of this latter house, not the former house, but the latter house, shall be greater than of the former, saith the Lord of hosts. Now, brethren, why? I'm getting sidetracked here and I'm kind of starting to poke people in the eye, I'm sure.

Why does anybody want to rebuild Jerusalem? Want to rebuild Israel? Want to rebuild the tabernacle? It says it right here in the Old Testament. It says it in the New Testament. We are under a better covenant. The Old Covenant is gone. Finished. Ended. Ceased. It has been made desolate. And why do the Zionists, why do the dispensationalists, why do all the people of the earth and the nations want to rebuild her?

That is not God's plan for the future. That is not God's plan for worship. That is not God's plan for his presence. God does not dwell in houses, tabernacles, temples made with hands. He dwells in the spiritual people that he has built. I will build my church. They will be to me a house. The glory of this latter house shall be greater than that of the former, saith the Lord of hosts. And in this place, Which place, the latter house, will I give peace, saith the Lord of hosts? Notice the Lord of hosts three times saying this. What did we hear last week?

Do not, do not disregard him that speaketh from heaven. Listen to him who speaks from heaven. Quit listening to John Hagee. Quit listening to Donald Trump. Quit listening to the old governor of Arkansas, Huckabee. Quit listening to all these people on TV and on the radio. that keep telling you, we got to lay down at the feet of Israel. We got to lay down the feet of Jerusalem. We got to lay down the feet of that tabernacle and help them get that thing rebuilt. Why? It's going to be just destroyed again.

It's never going to be a lasting kingdom. Matter of fact, it's not ever going to be a kingdom. God doesn't, God does not even, God doesn't even think of that as a kingdom now. He said, that kingdom has been taken away from you. People are fighting against God on this issue.

You're not fighting about eschatology debates. You're not fighting about different places. I know we all have our different views on eschatology. That is irregardless of anything. The fact remains, and it is not an eschatological group that you're in, although it does put you in one, It is an issue of what did God say? What did he who spoke from heaven say?

I will leave your house unto you deathly. The old covenant is gone. And what do we have? We have non-Christians bowing down to a tabernacle over on a hill in a city that no longer exists. To a Jesus that is not the true Jesus. Of course, in their mind, there is no Jesus. He's nothing. They spit on Jesus over there, but yet we're supposed to hold hands and lift them up and bow down to their feet, kiss their ankles. Brethren, listen.

And the reason I get so riled up about this is because it is blasphemy to God almighty in the man, Jesus Christ. It's blasphemy to Jehovah, to Yahweh. Because Jehovah and Yahweh is Christ Jesus himself. And if you deny Christ Jesus, you deny the great I am. You deny Jehovah. They do not worship our God.

But let me tell you this. Neither do the Armenians and everybody else who is bowing at this altar. They are worshiping another Jesus who they think is coming back to set up an earthly kingdom when he said, my kingdom is not of the earth. He's coming to set up this kingdom that we're in. You are come to Mount Zion. You are come to the new Jerusalem. You are come to this heavenly place already.

Now, brethren, just, me and brother Larry was talking about this just before church started. I am no wise, what I am saying in all this, as straighted and pointed as I can say it, I am not saying that that does not, that I'm denying a final culmination where we will be with Christ. I'm not denying a future resurrection of this body. I'm not denying that there's coming a time whenever God is going to put an end to everything.

But what I'm talking about is most of the things that we are reading in our Bibles, in Matthew, in the Old Testament, in Peter, in all these places in Revelation and all these things right here is speaking of an imminent judgment. that is coming upon the Old Covenant, the Old Covenant town, the Old Covenant tabernacle, the Old Covenant people, because this is the revelation of Jesus Christ.

It's the revelation of what he has done and who he is. It's a revelation of his salvation. And so whenever we look at these things, we are seeing the preaching, the teaching and the warning of what was to come for them, what we look back and see. And here in Haggai, we see that the very thing that Paul is talking about in Hebrews 12 is talking about the ending of the old covenant. Now look with me if you would, because this heaven and earth is a phrase that is used all throughout the scripture to signify a covenantal or a political order that is being judged. Look with me, if you would, at Isaiah chapter 13.

Brother, I'm sorry for raising my voice so loud and getting so worked up on this, but I tell you what, it's such a blasphemy to our Lord. It truly is a blasphemy to our Lord Jesus and what he has done and accomplished. And it's a blasphemy to the grace and the mercy that he has given us in himself.

Whenever we keep looking back to this old covenant, whether this old covenant, and I meant to say a while ago how the Armenians do it as well. The Armenians do it not only by supporting all that that's going on in the Middle East, but the Armenians do it by pointing you to go back to the law. The Armenians are doing the exact same thing as what Paul is warning these Hebrews. The Judaizers of Paul's day are the Judaizers of our day that are telling you, get back to work, get back to work. Get back to work. Go back to the law. You're only going to be right with God if you keep his commandments. You've got to be in obedience to him or you're not going to be in fellowship with him. It's law work, it's law work.

But Jesus said when this city comes down, when this kingdom comes, when this king sets up on the throne, what happens? We see in a picture of it, and I know this is also controversial in eschological viewpoints, but we see peace. Whenever this kingdom comes, peace happens, but it's not the peace that we think. Just like the Jews thought Jesus was coming for a reason that he wasn't coming for. to bring a peace that they thought was a different peace. They thought that peace was going to be to put down all the nations and stop all their enemies, and they were going to be set up on thrones, and they were going to rule all the nations from their thrones. But all of that was pictorial of us. In his kingdom, ruling and reigning with him who sits on the throne, And we rule and reign by the gospel of Jesus Christ. Why? Because nothing can move us. We are overcomers. Nothing can shake us. Why? Because this kingdom cannot be shaken. Nothing can destroy us. The gates of hell will never prevail.

Wherever the gospel of Jesus Christ goes forth, God is going to Get a return on his investment of what he does. The Bible says that his word will not return void. It will accomplish everything that it has been intended to accomplish, whether that be for the conversion of his children, giving them knowledge of him and bringing them into a restful peace on what he has done, or it will be to harden the hearts and the minds of those who are not his. The gospel of Jesus Christ is no longer bound.

It is free, and it's to everyone, to all the nations. In Isaiah chapter 13, look with me if you would, at verse 9. It says, Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate, and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light. The sun shall be darkened, his going forth and the moon shall not cause her light to shine." Now here is a prophecy saying that what's going to happen? The stars are going to fall from heaven and the constellations. There is going to be no light. The sun is going to be darkened. The moon shall not give her light to shine.

And what was this talking about? The end of the world? The apocalypse? No, it wasn't talking about that. This was saying this like it was in a literal way, but it wasn't. It didn't literally happen. It was a metaphorical speech, an apocryphal speech of coming judgment, because this is talking about the judgment that came against Babylon. The day the Lord came against Babylon. So the Lord used apocryphal language like stars falling from heaven. Sun being darkened. Moon not shining as judgmental language upon a political order of Babylon.

While you're in Isaiah, turn over to 34, chapter 34, verses 4 and 5. This here is talking about God coming in judgment against Edom, which actually happened. But look how he foretold this. Look at the words that he used to prophesy what he was about to do to Edom. Look at verse four.

It says, and all of the host of heaven shall be dissolved and the heaven shall be rolled together as a scroll. And all their hosts shall fall down as the leaf falleth off from the vine and as a falling fig from the fig tree. For my sword shall be bathed in heaven. Behold, it shall come down upon Idomaea and upon the people of my curse to judgment. So here we see the heavens will be dissolved. That's more apocryphal language that God used to signify coming judgment upon a political order or upon a covenant.

Look in Joel chapter two. There's a bunch of stuff in Joel. A bunch of stuff in Joel. Here's this apocryphal language. And all Jesus used was the apocryphal language. Peter used the apocryphal language. Paul used the apocryphal language. John the Revelator used apocryphal language. to describe and to take these Hebrews who knew this Old Testament, who knew this Old Covenant, and had known what the prophets had said, were taking them back and telling them Look at the language that's being used.

What kind of language comes when this language is, or what kind of actions take place when this language is being used? God reserves this language for what? Coming judgment. What does God use this language for? The ending of one order or one covenant. And what is he using this language for now? The prophecy of what was going to happen to Israel. But look in Joel, if you would, Joel chapter two and look at verse 10.

He says, the earth shall quake before them. The earth shall tremble. The sun and the moon shall be dark and the star shall withdraw their shining and the Lord shall utter his voice before his army for his camp is very great for he is strong that executed his word for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible and who can abide in it? Look if you would at verse 30. It says, and I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood and fire and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered. For in Mount Zion, and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord has said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call." So brethren, we see more apocryphal language here, but we see a distinction between God's people, true people, and where peace is gonna be found. It's gonna be not found in that Jerusalem, in that Zion, Natural Zion, physical Zion, it's gonna be in the spiritual. Look at verse 15. In chapter three, verse 15.

The sun and the moon shall be darkened and the star shall withdraw their shining. The Lord also shall roar out of Zion and utter his voice from Jerusalem and the heaven and the earth shall shake. But the Lord will be the hope of his people and the strength of the children of Israel.

"'So shall you know that I am the Lord your God, "'dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain, "'and then shall Jerusalem be holy, "'and there shall no strangers pass through her anymore.'" Brethren, that can't be talking about physical Jerusalem. It can't be talking about physical Israel. It can't be talking about a physical holy mountain, because it says right here, they will be holy. And there shall no strangers pass through anymore. Listen, there are no strangers in the kingdom of God. We are all brothers and sisters. We are all brethren.

And it shall come to pass in that day that the mountains shall drop down new wine and the hills shall flow with milk and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters and a fountain shall come forth out of the house of the Lord and shall water the valley of Shittim. Egypt shall be a desolation and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness for the violence against the children of Judah because they have shed innocent blood in their hand. But Judah shall dwell forever and Jerusalem from generation to generation for I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed. For the Lord dwelleth in Zion."

Brethren, the Lord dwells in us. This is where this is at. And this is where his waters come down. This is where his fountains come forth. This is where his rivers and trees and fruit and bread, all the metaphors that we see in the scriptures, where do they come forth? Whenever we meet is the people of God. Whenever the gospel of Christ is being preached, where the fellowship of Christ is brought together and we feed off of these things.

Look with me, if you would, in Matthew chapter 24. Matthew chapter 24. Verse 29. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened and the moon shall not give her light and the stars shall fall from heaven And the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

There's that language again. Same language that we've seen in the Old Testament. On the judgment upon those cities and upon those nations. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn. And they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven. That's another, the clouds of heaven were also a metaphor that was used throughout the Old Testament. of coming judgment, whenever the words clouds were used.

Coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory and he shall send his angels with the great sound of a trumpet and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds and from one end of heaven to another. Now learn a parable of the fig tree. Now we just learned a while ago, the fig tree is also very prevalent in apocryphal language, right? When his branch is yet tender and put aforth leaves, yet know that summer is nigh. So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled." And brother, I just believe that to be true. I believe that this generation that he was speaking to is the generation into which he was talking about these things that were about to happen. He says, this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away but my words shall not pass away. What is the... I hope to be able to put this together in a cognitive way here. He says, heaven and earth shall pass away.

And I'm taking that to mean the old covenant, but what's taken the place? His words. What did Hebrews tell us? The old covenant is going away, but God has spoke before in times of old by the law and the prophets. But in these last days, how has he spoken? By his son, Jesus, right?

The word was made flesh and dwelt among us. Why was the word made manifest and to dwell among us? So that we might know the father. that we might know God, that we might know that He is God and that we are His people. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

He tabernacled. That word there is tabernacle. He tabernacled with us. What does that mean? Then that means the Word of the tabernacle. It's all over the Scriptures, brethren. And in every instance, it is speaking of a spiritual reality, not a physical reality. It is talking about a spiritual thing that is happening now.

There was an ending of the old. There was a coming of Jesus. There was a destruction of the old covenant and the old covenant people in that city. That was a fulfillment of all the old covenant. Jesus fulfilled everything. There is nothing left to be fulfilled except for our return to him. That's what's being left to fulfill.

And he is coming in judgment upon these people. And he's telling them, this generation will not pass away till those things, not only that I just told you is about to happen, but what those prophets were telling you was going to happen. The prophecies of Joel, the prophecies of Isaiah. Jesus says here, he says, Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my word shall not. But of that day and hour knows no man, nor the angel of heaven, but my father only. But as the days of Noah were, so shall the coming of the son of man shall be for as many, for as in the days of, that were before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage until the day that Noah entered into the ark. And they knew not until the flood came and took them all away.

So shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. Brethren, I tell you what, if you go and read in Josephus where the destruction of Jerusalem happened, you'll find how so much of this actually came true. Exactly the way Jesus said, exactly the way the prophets said would happen. All the things that took place, took place right there. And you'll see that that is what happened. Look, if you would also with me back to Hebrews chapter eight, I wanna read a few more verses here before we get out of here and move on. Hebrews chapter eight. Look with me if you would at verse 10.

It says, for this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, sayeth the Lord, I will put my law into their mind and write them in their hearts and I will be to them a God and they shall be to me a people "'And they shall not teach every man his neighbor "'and every man his brother, saying, "'Know the Lord, for all shall know me, "'from the least to the greatest.

"'For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, "'and their sins and their iniquities "'will I remember no more. "'In that he saith a new covenant, "'he hath made the first old, "'now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready, to vanish away. Now, I know we read those a few weeks ago, but I wanted to read those again to show you that this old covenant was waxing away. This is the same generation to whom Jesus preached and said this generation would not pass away till all be fulfilled.

And here Paul is saying this is about to be fulfilled. It is already beginning. We are already seeing the signs of these things. The elect are seeing it. The elect are knowing it. The elect are comprehending it. But those who are not, are not seeing it. They can't comprehend it. They are just going on about their lives as if nothing had ever happened, just like in the days of Noah. And it's just about to be, God's judgment is about to come and gonna take them away. It's gonna sweep them away in judgment.

Now, let's look at 2 Peter chapter three. In 2 Peter chapter 3, and look with me if you would at verse 10. Well, yeah, let's look at verse 10. It says, but the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens shall pass away with great noise and the elements shall melt with fervent heat. The earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Now, again, we see the apocalyptic speaking of the heaven shall pass away with great noise and the elements shall melt with fervent heat. Here's what I want you to pay attention to, though. This is one of the things that the Lord taught me just recently that I was speaking about earlier, that I'm thankful that the Lord continues to teach me things.

This word element, and I actually kind of knew this, but I've never put it into the context of this, of that judgment upon AD 70. Okay, and I've never fully seen how the Bible uses this term. This word elements here, the Bible uses this in several different places in the New Testament. Four times, our King James Bible translates this Greek word element.

There's two times that the Bible translates that same word as rudiment and one time, principle and so I thought we would look at those verses real quick so we could see what was in view of being of passing away as we see here and the element shall melt with fervent heat that I'm putting forth that this again is is apocryphal language showing an ending of a covenant an ending of the Old Covenant particularly look with me if you would at Galatians chapter 4. Galatians chapter 4, and look with me if you will to chapter, or verse 3.

It says, even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the, here's the word, elements of the world. That's a speaking of the old covenant and the old world. It's speaking of the old heaven and the old earth. The old heaven covenant, the old earth, the old covenant people. Okay.

We were under the elements of the world, but when the fullness of time was come, God sent forth his son made of a woman under the law to redeem them that work. Here it is under the law. Now he used apocryphal language up here when he spoke of the elements of the world, but he opened it up in full display when he said, to redeem them who were under the law. We were under the elements of the world. We were under the law.

That's the old covenant. Look at verse nine. It says, but now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage. So here again, we see the word element is using, is being used to talk about the old covenant. So when it talks about the heavens passing away, that's the old covenant and the old covenant system. When it talks about the elements burning up with fervent heat, it's talking about a judgment coming upon that old covenant. And it ending and going away.

Look, if you would, at Colossians. Chapter two. Colossians. Colossians chapter two, look at verse eight. says, beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit. Now here's that same word that is used for elements after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world and not after Christ. So we know that this here is talking about again, being under the rudiments of the law. It's the old covenant. So we see that that word element, or as we see it translated here, rudiment, is speaking of the old covenant.

Look at verse 20 there in chapter two. He says, wherefore, if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why as though living in the world are ye subject to ordinances? He said, if you consider yourself to be free in Christ and outside of that old covenant, why are you continuing to go back and live as if you're under the covenant?

The covenant is dead. It's gone. And you're dead to the covenant. Why do you go back and live like you are under the covenant? That's what I want to say to all these Zionists. Why do you want to live like you're under the covenant again? That's what I want to say to all the Hebrew Roots people. Why do you want to go back under the covenant? What I want to say to all the Armenians. Why do you want to keep sending back people back under the rudiments of this world? Hebrews chapter 5, back in the context of what we're looking at here. The same writer. Well, it's all written by the same author. But the earthly writer here that wrote this. Hebrews chapter 5, look at verse 12.

It says, For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again, which be the first principles of the oracles of God, and are become such as have need of milk and not strong meat. For everyone that useth milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have the senses exercised to discern both good and evil what did paul learn whenever he when the law came alive in him he learned good and evil didn't he he learned that god was good and that he was evil what did adam learn when his eyes were opened he learned good and evil what do we learn whenever god quickens us from above and opens up our eyes we learn that we are evil and that god is good And what does that bring us to? That brings us to Christ. It shows us the old covenant cannot save us, and we look to Christ.

That's what he's talking about when he's talking about babes and milk and all that kind of junk. He's not talking about ABCs and 123s. He's talking about old covenant, new covenant. Those who are still dwelling under the old covenant and pointing people back to the old covenant and keeping people in bondage to the old covenant, are still drinking milk. They've not moved on to, they've not been brought to eat meat.

Those who are maturing Christ are the ones who see the old covenant is gone. The new covenant is all of Christ and it has been completed. The old has been done away with. Christ fulfilled everything in that covenant on our behalf. And the new covenant is us living in the peace and enjoyment of full fulfillment of that covenant in Christ Jesus.

But you see he used the word here, principle. That word principle is the same word behind rudiments, is the same word behind elements. Those principles have burned away with fervent heat because of the judgment of Jesus Christ. So, to those who were in this transitional period, to those who were Still being drawn back into this old covenant system.

The warnings were coming. This generation will not pass away until you see all these things happen. The end is coming. The time is coming. Christ is coming back in the cloud of judgment upon this people. He is going to come with fervent fire and destroy this old covenant. And a new heavens and a new earth. Will be made manifest and will come down.

So to us on this side of AD 70, this time, on this side of the old covenant being destroyed and gone away, we see that yet once more was that incoming one more time in judgment upon Israel and upon the old covenant. We see that the shaking involves the removing of all the typological things, all of the covenantal things, all of the apocryphal things. We see that the destruction of AD 70 is the manifestation of the old being ended and then the opening and the enjoyment of the new coming down. Now, brethren, as I said, I still don't say that that means that there is no consummation at the end of time. whenever God destroys everything.

I still, at least to this point, unless God changes my mind, I still believe that there is a coming of Jesus where Jesus comes and we are received to him and this body will be resurrected and our new body will be given to me and I will be in the physical presence of Christ forever. But I believe a lot of the things that we are reading in the scripture we're putting towards the future that has already been. And we need to keep them in the context of that to know the better teaching and the better rest and peace that we have in this new covenant.

One thing I have learned at least in going through this is knowing that it doesn't matter what's going to happen in this world. If Donald Trump blows up this world and takes over the whole thing and becomes the dictator everybody is so hoping that he is, if Putin lets off all the bombs that he has, if China lets off all the bombs they have, it doesn't really matter in the scheme of eternal things. Because this kingdom and this world is just fleeting and temporal. And it's only a world that's here that is given to us to be able to enjoy and to know the glory of our God while we're here.

And he has overcome all of these things. He has overcome everything. He is in control of all of it. He is the one who sets up kings. He is the one who sets up nations. He is the one who sets up religious orders for his purposes. But he is the king of kings. He is the Lord of lords. He is the one who is sitting in the throne and he has promised us ye are not come to a covenant as that old covenant.

Ye are come to Mount Zion, to the new Jerusalem, to the city of God, to a better covenant. And you have been brought by hand, brethren. You've been brought by his hand. You didn't stroll into it by accident. You didn't choose to walk in. Jesus didn't knock on the door of your heart and you let him come in. No, he by his sovereign grace came. and brought you into this kingdom, and brought this kingdom into you. You in me, and I in you.

Ain't that what Jesus prayed in John 17? That they might know thee, the true God, and his son, Jesus Christ, who I believe is the one and the same person, by the way. What a beautiful, beautiful picture that we have of what God has done on our behalf, done for us, and has brought us into, you know, those Old Testament brethren, while they seen Jesus from afar off, they didn't see Jesus like we did. They didn't experience his presence like we get to experience his presence.

And that's why, like I said, I get so riled up whenever I see people wanting to say that these people over here are people that we need to bow down and cow down to, kowtow down to, that hate Jesus, that spit on Jesus, that kill, still continue today, to kill the prophets. And God himself, from his own lips, has said that is no more. But yet, professing Christians say, I don't think so, we're gonna rebuild it. We're gonna do it.

It's almost as if like, you know, whenever I kind of think here, remember whenever they came to arrest Jesus in the garden that night and Malchus came and Peter drew his sword and cut off the ear of Malchus and was gonna stop this crucifixion from happening. I mean, you think about it, I mean, getting your ear cut off, that's a pretty serious thing, right?

And what Peter did, he probably shouldn't have done. But you think about it, it's kind of humorous, because here we see that Jesus, before the foundation of the world, was set up as a lamb slain. It was the purpose of God for Christ to come and die for his people before sin even entered into the world, before the world was even made. And to think that Peter was going to stop The crucifixion of Jesus Christ by cutting off somebody's ear or jabbing somebody with that knife that he drew, the sword that he drew, is ridiculous.

Especially when we've seen in that same scenario, they said, are you Jesus? Remember what he said? He said, I am. What happened whenever he spoke those words? What happened to all those people that had surrounded him? to come and arrest him. What does the Bible say happened whenever he spoke those words? He said they were all threw back. Boom, he said I am and boom, they all went back. And here Peter thinks I'm gonna stop him. I'm gonna stop him with my sword. And Jesus just said I am and all of them fell backwards.

And Jesus said, I'm gonna leave your house to you desolate. and the nations of the world said, oh, no, no, no, no. We're gonna build it back up for you, Jesus. We're gonna do what you couldn't do. You couldn't keep Jerusalem. You couldn't hold Jerusalem. That is blasphemy in my Lord's face. And I will fight that till the day that I die if the Lord continues to give me grace.

All right. Does anybody have anything that you'd like to say or any comments? Okay. I believe that there is coming a time when Revelation 13 says that it was given unto him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and the power was given unto him in all things and in all connections. I don't believe that happened in 70 AD. Okay.

And I do believe in the literal mark of the beast. I believe the only ones that are going to refuse it are those whose names are written in the landscape of life and the foundation of the world. And I do believe that we have to be careful to proclaim that everything happened in 70 AD, which is about to come upon this earth. Because I think it's going to put a lot of people in a quandary, just like Zionism would put everything in a quandary. I believe that the Bull Zionist movement is part of the false Antichrist beast system, which Trump is a part of, basically.

Okay. Well, brother, I appreciate you saying that. And as I said, I know all of us have our eschological differences. What brother Larry said, I don't completely agree with either, but I don't believe it's a basis of fellowship. I don't look down on Larry for what he holds to that. I may still be in darkness on what I understand and he's been given light to understand and maybe vice versa, I don't know. That's why we continue to look to God and trust the Lord to teach us and things such as that. But I appreciate that and I want everybody here to know that you can disagree and you have a place here It doesn't mean that we don't love each other and still are holding to the same gospel, even though we may not agree exactly the same on all these eschatological things. But I will agree a lot with what Larry does believe, some things he says on that. I do hold to some of those things, but we do have, there is a difference there, as with a lot of my preacher friends and other brothers and sisters in Christ, we have differences on where the Lord has us and what we believe and everything.

And just because that's there, I don't believe that that should be a test of fellowship or it should be a place that we should divide over. And I won't, I won't ever make it that and everything. So, and I hope you guys don't either, you know, I hope you don't hold so tight to your eschatology that, you know, you condemn a brother or sister in Christ that might not be where you're at and everything. At one time I did, I did hold that view that if you don't believe like I do, then I ain't gonna fellowship with you. But I found out that I ain't gonna be able to fellowship with hardly anybody because not everybody agrees with me on everything.

So I'm thankful that the Lord has given Larry his stand on that, and I'm glad that he stands on what the Lord has given him. I think Larry would probably say just like I do, I can only believe what the Lord has given me to believe. I don't know anything else, and I don't knock people out. I have been very blessed by your ministry, and I really appreciate your teachings on the distinction between the old and the new. I do very much appreciate it. Very good. All I can say, just like how I do with everything, just eat the meat and spit out the bones, if it's bones to you, just spit them out and everything. And pray for me. Yeah, pray for us, you know. But, you know, I was telling Larry before we came on the broadcast, and maybe I said it whenever the broadcast was going on, I don't remember.

Stand up here and say this is what the Lord says is a very sobering thing. And to say this is what God says is a sobering thing. And I don't take that I don't really take that very lightly. So I say, pray for me that the Lord might show me, give me understanding, give me more light on these verses.

And I understand, listen, brethren, it's not the, this eschatological discussion and what has happened and what has not happened and what's going to happen. This debate has been going on for thousands of years. It's not new to us and greater men than me and Larry and all of us have debated these things. I say greater, humanly speaking, greater, but I don't believe in a kingdom that are greater than any of us, but smart wise, maybe, smart in the things of men, maybe, but these things have been debated for years, and so I don't think it's gonna end now.

So just continue to look to Christ, look to the Bible, pray that the Spirit will give you understanding of these things. I don't have all the answers. I don't have all the answers. I don't know all things. But I just humbly tried to preach what the Lord has given me to preach and everything.

And know that if I find disagreement on some things that to me are not divisible in them, I hope to show you love and meekness. Pray that you would show me the same. and everything. On the gospel and some of the things that are pretty firm, I believe that the Bible says that we should divide over like the gospel. Righteousness and things like that, I think there comes a time where that will bring division. But we shouldn't let some of these things like this bring division among us. That we can sit down together and reason together. I'll pick your brain, you pick mine type thing, you know.

All right, anybody else have anything you'd like to say? Any comment, corrections or reviews? I'm open to any of that. All right. Well, maybe one of these days we can get into all those other issues and everything. But my hope was to put forth this new and better, greater covenant and the one who is at the center of it. my hope in all of this more than anything.

All right, let's bow and have a word of prayer. Father, we once again thank you for all that you are and all that you've done through Christ Jesus. And Father, we just thank you for all the gracious things that you have brought us through. We thank you, Lord, for even the very growing in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Father, I do pray that if I'm speaking from darkness on these things, I pray that you would renew my mind that you give me a right understanding of these things. Lord, I pray that you would lead me into truth as you have promised. And Lord, that I might not say things that are untrue to your people and upon you. And Lord, I do ask that you would guide and govern all of our meetings together. Lord, that even in times of disagreement, that you would give us love for one another and patience and long suffering with each other. as we await you to be our teacher and to grow us in that grace and that knowledge.

And Father Lord, I'm thankful that you have given a love for the brethren that we have in our hearts that we can dwell amongst each other and worship with each other and fellowship with each other in this state and in this way that we've come together, Lord, as imperfect as we are. And Lord, we just thank you that you have put all things under your feet, and that you have brought your people to yourself, and Lord, that you have given us the grace and the mercy that we could never deserve of our own. And Father, Lord, I thank you that you, through Jesus Christ, has revealed yourself to us, and that we now have access to you, and we can come boldly before the throne of grace, that the middle wall of partition has been torn apart that that veil that hid your glory is now removed. That very thing that kept us from your presence, we now have presence with you and you with us. And Lord, we just thank you.

I pray that we never take it for granted, the opportunities that we have together, together as your people. There are many brothers and sisters in Christ who are out there that do not have the ability to come and be ministered to and minister to monks. by other brothers and sisters in Christ in a congregation like this. And Lord, we know you have your purposes and ways of that. And we just pray, Lord, that you would give them strength and mercy, Lord, that you would give them sustenance, whether it be through listening through a radio or TV or YouTube or sermon audio or whatever it is, whatever platform. where they can hear your word preached, Lord, that you would keep them during this time, that you would, Lord, raise up other brothers and sisters in their place where they could meet. But Lord, may we never be unmindful of what you have done for us to give us the opportunity to gather together and to worship one another. Lord, we do thank you and we pray that this has been a sweet-smelling savor to you, and we pray, Lord, that you'll be with us as we leave. Keep us safe. It's in Christ's name that we pray. Amen.

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